Almost Brothers Podcast

Strengthen Your Weak Spots

Michael Simmons, Richard Randl, Tyler Wilkerson

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If you’ve ever said “I’ll work on it” and then changed nothing, this conversation is for you. We sit down and name the real weak spots we’re trying to strengthen: health choices, sarcasm, zoning out, time management, and the way our standards can quietly sabotage relationships. We talk about what it looks like to grow up emotionally, give people grace, and stop grading everyone by the way we would do it.

Then the talk gets deeper. We share why mental health needs more honesty, especially postpartum depression, and why “just pray about it” cannot be the only plan. We believe faith matters, but so do practical steps like therapy, habits, support, and speaking up early with a simple sentence like “I need help.” If you’ve felt overwhelmed, ashamed, or unsure how to explain what’s going on inside your head, you’ll recognize yourself here.

After that, we lighten it up with hot takes that still hit real life: why vacations can be more stressful than relaxing, why weddings feel like overpriced parties, and why healthcare and insurance in the United States can feel confusing, expensive, and unfair. We even vent about warranties, coverage rules, and how often regular people get stuck paying the price.

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Cold Open And Welcome

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I'm coming up.

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All right.

SPEAKER_01

Down here talking. It's good stuff. It's good stuff. You know, just uh just really on top of it. What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, everybody. Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Almost Brothers Podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

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Thank you for joining us yet again. We are so excited to be here. As always, we got Richie Rich.

SPEAKER_03

Hello. How's it going?

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What's up?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, another day in paradise.

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Yeah, another day in paradise. We got producer Zeke. Yeah. That's me. Yeah, I know. That's why we threw it over to you and said, Hi, how are you doing today? Other than sweaty.

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Sausages.

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Yes. And in third chair, we usually have Tata, but he is not here today. So we have his amazing, wonderful, amazing, awesome wife. Liv, how are you doing?

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Doing good.

Naming Weaknesses We Want To Fix

SPEAKER_01

She's already said, she's already said more words than Tyler puts in in the intro. So, you know, we're off to a good start. Off to a good start. So on today's episode, we're going to be talking about strengthening our weaknesses. I feel like we, as humans, always got something. Look at the time. We've always got something to work on. Yeah. So first we're going to start off with what is something you see about yourself you want to work on?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's an easy one. Oh, come on. So I got two. Okay. The first one is my weight, which I'm actively working on. I'm two weeks without sugar or monster.

SPEAKER_01

I know it's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And the second one is my sarcastic nature. And I know everybody. Don't do it. Do not push that button. Live. Okay. So as most people that know me know, um my go-to response to about anything is sarcasm. So I would like to not do that as often.

SPEAKER_01

English is your second language. Sarcasm is your first language. Whatever. Okay. That's a good one. I like it.

SPEAKER_00

In both.

SPEAKER_01

Man, just just in in and out.

SPEAKER_03

And it happens without even thinking about it. I've done it for so long that it's just and it's not bad.

SPEAKER_01

It's I I find sarcastic people to be more interesting. You know, it's it's fun to be around them. It's like joking. A lot of people don't feel each other the same way. So, Zeke, what's something about yourself you want to work on?

SPEAKER_02

Basketball.

SPEAKER_01

Other than we're talking about working on yourself. Work something that you do that you wish you could work on, like I listening a little better, you know, something like that.

SPEAKER_02

Um, not as I think that was a hint. Not zoning out as much.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Yeah. Okay. I'd hit the button again, but I don't uh wear it. That's good. That's good. Live what you got. What's something you feel like? Man, I I want to work on that a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, I'm just too sweet.

SPEAKER_01

Something good. Make it something positive, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean I just I mean, duh.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, you know, when you go to an interview and they ask you, like, what's your biggest weakness? You want to make it something positive? Like, I can't, I can't start a job and not finish it. I've got to finish what I'm, you know, try to make it positive.

SPEAKER_00

Um well, I've got a couple too.

SPEAKER_04

Go for it.

SPEAKER_00

One has been, and I have been trying to work on it. Uh-oh. Is my time manager?

SPEAKER_01

Come on, I will hit the motor. So that's why that's why when we cracked till your hands fall off. That's what we we wanted to start the episode before you got up here to just mess with you about uh, there's Liv, she's laid again.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, listen, I was washing my kids' stuff. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Man, okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then another one um that like I've noticed with myself is like um being more grateful for Tyler.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Because like as a husband and as a dad, like because he he really does do a lot for us, like, you know, and I'm not just saying that because he's not here, but you know, but you know, I it it is more noticeable the things like like if I'm laying with the kids in bed, he'll go and make bottles for them in the morning. Yeah, and you know, he's not gonna be home for a couple days, so I'm like, oh dang. Yeah, that's that's gonna suck. You realize, yeah, you realize the things that you know, it's just like and it's little things like that, but also like the bigger things too, you know. Um, like helping us get out the door on on time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so yeah, because he's the opposite. He's very like precise. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um, we're grateful for Tyler also.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think which I mean for anybody, I think I think there's an obvious answer to this, but do you think the kids have have made that even harder? Like that just time management and and you have to take so many things into consideration.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like it's I don't know, it's made it harder but easier at the same time. Like it's harder because there is so many things that you have to take into account when you're getting ready for the day. Yeah. Like you have to, I have to backtrack plan, is what I call it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So like we need to be there at 12. So I have to we need to leave by 11 30.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, and then figure out and then like just go from there.

SPEAKER_00

So I have to get up at 5 a.m.

SPEAKER_03

and then you know, hey Liv, Liv, that that's what everybody does.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm I'm just saying Well, I don't know, but man, that's a long period of time. You can need to leave at 11:35.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, when you got two babies and eyelashes, that's true. Listen, they don't take me as long. That is 20 minutes. No.

SPEAKER_03

Zeke, Zeke is zoned out, he's already failed it.

SPEAKER_00

He's like, yep, tune out.

SPEAKER_01

He does. Like, there's some I'll be talking to him, and and it's just like, are you hearing me? Huh? And I'm just like, bro, Tyler Jr.

SPEAKER_03

He's having small seizures and you just don't know about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or like I I know he he gets nervous when I have to have a serious talk with him, so he won't look at me, so I have to make him.

SPEAKER_03

I wish we were on video.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna keep a tally.

SPEAKER_01

Zone out tally.

SPEAKER_02

These Star Wars movies are funny.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna be that one. What you got, Mike? Um mine is is understanding because I think this this is where where some of my frustration and and my sarcasm comes in, is realizing that not everybody looks at things or understands things the way that I do. So I've got to stop kind of judging others by what by how I would do it or what I would say or how I would react, putting that standard on other people's. I'm really bad, especially those that have never done it before, you know, or don't have a history of doing it. I've got to be able to go, okay, give more grace in that. And that and so I think I think I expect others to to have the knowledge that I've got after years of doing something, and it's their first time doing it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I feel like we all kind of struggle with that just like a little bit, you know.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

And I get I get frustrated at them, and it has very little to do with them and a lot to do with me. So I feel like I give myself a lot of stress. Um and and I I feel like I lose out on some good relationships with people because I see that that they may not, and then I get frustrated, so I just like kind of kind of back up. So that's definitely so. And I believe that for all of us, for these things, so I wanted to to pinpoint a few things so that we can understand that starts with knowing those things about yourself. Like, um, I talked this morning, I want to honor Jamie more.

SPEAKER_03

Um I don't know that you could honor Jamie more. I mean, you are pretty good about honoring Jamie. Like to the point that everybody's sickened sickened by being around you.

Staying Present And Learning To Talk

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm I and I'm like Liv, it's kind of you you see the small things, and and it's like I want to make sure to to articulate that to her more. I I feel like I do a good job around others honoring her. I need to do more to her, you know, in those things, kind of like Liv said with Tyler, just being thankful, you know, in those moments. So I think I think the first thing is kind of identifying. So now what is the next steps for you in those things? And we're gonna start with Zeke. What's the next step in for for you to to help yourself grow in that area of not zoning out so much?

SPEAKER_02

Lock in.

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Lock in.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Just is and that's it. Why do you feel like you you zone out so much? Um like do you think about other things? Are you just like daydreaming and not really thinking about anything?

SPEAKER_02

So like I sometimes daydream if I'm like if I'm crazy bored, because we was literally doing the state test. I think this was like Thursday, and we were doing the state test. I literally started zoning out and thinking about if an intruder came to our school, where would I hide? What? Like Were you done with the test? No, I was like, I was on question like 14, and I'm just like, man, where would I hide in this classroom? And I'm just looking around.

SPEAKER_01

Who does he sound like?

SPEAKER_02

Tyler.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, but I mean, besides Tyler, I swear that he reminds me of Tristan a lot. Oh, yeah. He really does.

SPEAKER_03

Just Tristan will do just the most random out there thing.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, what are you yeah? So that reminds me of a thought that Tristan would have, just like random.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and also sometimes it looks like I'm zoning out, but like I'm actually listening because like if I'm reading a book and or if somebody's like reading a book to me, I'd be like staring at something random because you can imagine like the book in your head. That's like a better way for me to understand the book.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I think that's good in that instance. It's not good when someone is talking to you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because if you're talking to me and I'm doing this, does it look like I'm paying attention?

SPEAKER_02

Nah.

SPEAKER_01

So to that person, you're going, they could care less about what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_03

Well, he knows he's he's a lot better now than he was a few years ago, though. I mean, you'd talk to him and he'd walk right by you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Just not acknowledge you spoke.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. He's a, he's a, and he still gets like that. We have to get, we have to get to the point with him where he he he loves being biased. He loves he's a homebody. He wants to be at home in his room or with a. I mean, he he'll come and hang out with me and like do stuff, but he's not a go and be around of a lot a lot of people, like hardly ever. So like he'd have friends that asked him, hey, come and hang out. And he's like, I just kind of want to stay home tonight. Right. Because he he just he he he he doesn't interact with people a lot, you know, in that in that manner. So he's even broken out of that a lot. Where uh we we had people that knew him for two, three years, I mean, and never got a word out of him. He just wouldn't speak.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it's different with TJ.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, is it?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, because he's like he's been my friend ever since I was in like second and third grade. And diapers, yeah. So like you were in diapers. Eight years old. So like I just know him more, and he's more like I see myself in him, yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_01

But you you and your whole generation has got to get better at this. You need to be able to conversate and look people in the eye and shake the hand and and continue a conversation, not just hey, how's your day? Good to be able to conversate because learning that skill now is only gonna help you in the future. You're not gonna be able to go and talk to a college basketball coach and just say, Hey, good. You're gonna have to conversate. Hey, what do you love about the game? What do you think about our our our school? And but you're gonna have to be able to hold a conversation and not just one answer.

SPEAKER_03

How do you feel you're gonna get better at this game? Lock in.

SPEAKER_01

Lock in. It's like you gotta have more than that. Like they literally sit down and ask you questions that depending on how you respond, is how they look at you, you know. So, so that that's some things. Start doing that now so that you can be prepared as you go on. You have a job interview and they ask you questions. If you're one answer, you're not getting the job. Facts. You've got to be able to look people in the eye and shake their hands. That's why, you know, when you met your girlfriend's dad, so did you shake his hand? You say, Hi, good to meet you. Did you talk to him? Did you look him in the in the face?

SPEAKER_02

You know, and he scared me a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I was a little bit scared.

SPEAKER_02

Cause like I met her dad and or not her dad, her mom and like her grandma, but I haven't met her dad like at all. Yeah. Because I met her mom like first week we was dating, and I met her grandma like first month, but I've never met her dad until like I went to the softball game.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Scared of that. Was your voice like shaking?

SPEAKER_02

My voice. My voice wasn't shaking. Hi. But I got a friend. Sound like Shaggy. His name was Zoin's like Zoinks. I got a friend named Kane. Yeah. Right? And he's dating Lily. Yeah. And he's more scared of her mom than her dad. Yeah. Which is surprising.

Time Management With Kids And Phones

SPEAKER_01

Why are you putting this business out in the streets? Oh, just saying that. All right, Liv, what do you got? What's something that you can work on that time management and just being grateful? Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Well, well, time management, I've been trying to be like more proactive of like, you know, um staying on task. Yeah. Because I'm used to I I get off task very easily.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I was gonna ask. Is it like you you you need to get up earlier or is it just staying on task more? I need to get up earlier. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And you don't get earlier and so it's a little bit of both.

SPEAKER_03

It's hard for you to wake up anyway, right?

SPEAKER_00

Not anymore.

SPEAKER_03

That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like what for example, this morning, I was like, I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna get up at like 6 30. Like I'm you know, I was like, I didn't I ain't got nothing else I gotta do in the morning. Other than get the kids ready and myself ready.

SPEAKER_04

You know, other than that.

SPEAKER_00

Like that's you know, that's plenty of time. Like most of their stuff is already together, their doctor bag's good, whatever. Just their bottle bag and getting them dressed and fed. Not a big deal. So I um I was like, oh, I'll be fine. And well Ezra decided he was hungry at 5 a.m. So that's when we got up at 5 a.m. And he went back to bed. I did not. Yeah. So I was like, I'm gonna go ahead and take a shower. Like, you know, I did all the things and I had I had plenty of time to like to play music on my phone. Like I can't I can't do extra things like that without getting distracted. Yeah. And like, oh, let me check Facebook for a minute, and then I'm on there for 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, Yeah, like, oh, I gotta get back to it. What was I doing?

SPEAKER_00

I was like, oh my gosh, I have five minutes left, like I gotta get in the car, like my hair's still wet, and so it's I just I end up panicking and freaking out and getting mad at everybody. Yeah, but it's my fault, you know. Right. So um, and I haven't been, you know, blaming Tyler at all for any of that because it's not his fault. It's not. Um, but no, I have noticed like sometimes with him, I like the other day, I don't remember what we were talking, we were talking about food, just like getting lunch or something like that. And he had um kindly, and as a good husband would, he went um by Sam's Club and I like their chicken salad sandwiches they have there. And so he got me some. I didn't know he was going to. And so he just got me some because he knew I liked them and I needed food for the week at lunch at the house because I can't really go out. I mean, I can, but it's a hassle to just go. Oh, yeah, for sure. To go out and get food. So I'm like, I'm a DoorDash. I'm a Door Dash. Then it's like 30 bucks later, so I was like, but so he got me some chicken salad sandwiches, which was very nice, um, and some sushi. Oh but I didn't get to I didn't get to enjoy it though, because it kind of I forgot about it, and it sat in there for like well it sat in there and it was like on the second day it was in the fridge, and it was like the rice was like Yeah, sushi does not last.

SPEAKER_01

So have you have you ever had chicken salad chick, like the actual restaurant?

SPEAKER_00

I've had it one time. I've had it one time, really good.

SPEAKER_01

They got one in Jonesboro, yeah. It's fantastic, it's very good. Yeah, that's like barbecue.

SPEAKER_00

So that's where that was good.

SPEAKER_01

So that's what I had to get to because I was I was the same. Like I will get distracted and off on something in the middle of a task, and then I'll be like, crap. Yeah, and then I would just have to not do what I was doing, like, okay, I'll have to do that later.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then everything's due at once, and I get frustrated and mad and upset, and and I'm like, Well, this is my own fault.

SPEAKER_03

I do that stereotypical old man thing where I'll walk into a room and forget why I came, and I'll just Oh, I I do the stereotypical old man thing too. And I'll just laugh at myself. I'm just like, what? I really don't know why I came in here.

SPEAKER_01

Man, what the came in here for something. Yeah, that's good because it you know, at at a certain point it affects everything. It affects the whole day, you know. Uh the kids used to be bad, they're not bad anymore. They used to be really, really bad at getting up and getting ready in the morning, and it affected our whole day because now we're frustrated, upset, we're running behind everything.

SPEAKER_00

So well, my whole part is just like the getting up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like once I'm up and I'm like, you know, starting to do stuff, I wake up awake, and I know that's how it'll go. I'm like, eh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Are you a snoozer? Sometimes I am the worst. That is one thing I need to know. Yes, you are the worst.

SPEAKER_00

The I used to have to set like 15 alarms. I'm not even kidding. Like in school, oh, it was so bad. Like my parents would come in my room and be like, Why is your alarm's stuck on?

SPEAKER_03

You share a hotel room with Michael Simmons, and you learn that he is a snoozer.

SPEAKER_01

It is so bad. And I I I won't get out of bed. I'm telling you, dude. Five more minutes is not gonna help you.

SPEAKER_00

Get him an alarm and we'll use your voice again.

SPEAKER_02

Watch his phone for an hour before getting up.

SPEAKER_01

I do that. So I've got a routine on on like work days. So I'll I wake up about 7.15. I'll my alarm starts at 6.30. Even though I know I'm not gonna get up until 7. Don't, I I don't, okay? This is a crazy place. My brain's a crazy place. But I will snooze until about 7.15. I will get up, coffee, I will, I will go through Facebook, Instagram, anything like that, any updates like that. It's a root every single day. I'll get in the shower and then go about my day. And it's a routine. Well, even after a while, it's like I've got too much to do to do this, but I'll still do it. And I know it's pushing me back, and I've got too full of a day to sit for 20 minutes and and do that. But it's like, but but it's my routine though.

SPEAKER_03

But I don't think that that's a I don't think that's a bad thing to have a routine because if once you get out of that routine, it messes everything up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, your your whole day is jacked when you when you get out of your, especially somebody like you that is routine specific. Yeah. You know, your creature of habit very to a fault.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, very much.

SPEAKER_03

It's weird. So I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing to maintain those as long as it's not two hours watching reels. That's a whole nother thing.

SPEAKER_01

But man, you you know how much I am a creature of habit that I didn't realize until this afternoon. I I went home, ate, was like, okay, I can get like a 45 minute nap. And I opened my phone to set my alarm, and I've already specifically got them for like the time I'm getting up, the time I'm going. Like, I'm like, oh, all I gotta do is turn. Like, man. I mean, it is it is like set up because it it is, man. I I get I freak out if if it's not at somewhat, okay, this, this, this, this, and this. It's weird. I know, dude. We went to I took uh and Jamie went and ate the other day and I got Buffalo chicken wontons. Uh uh. I know. I ain't gotta look at the I ain't gotta look at it. I know I'm Why, dude. There's all I don't I know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It just is what it is.

SPEAKER_03

They're Po boys.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Just is what it is. Big whiskey. Which is the thing. Yeah. I know. So good. We got uh we got what's some things you're gonna implement? What's the things you're gonna implement? Well you got what you got.

SPEAKER_03

English lessons for Pastor Mike. Uh so obviously the weight, I it's common sense. I've been working on it, gets a continuous problem.

SPEAKER_01

I know you talked about like taking your lunch.

SPEAKER_03

Is that something that you're you're still trying to do, like taking your lunch to work with you, or no however, however, I do do better, do do better at doo-doo. It's such a child. I do better at like when I go to a truck stop or to or wherever I'm going throughout the day, just really seeking out better options. Yeah. You know, truck stops they'll have like fruit cups and and uh I've noticed a lot more of that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like uh like um like little packages with like meat and cheese in it. Yeah, I see a lot more of those.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but I really like the boiled eggs. Yeah, they've got like four boiled eggs that you can get for$250 or something. Yeah, I like those. You do salt? No, no, I don't use salt. Okay. I can't do salt because the salt bumps on my tongue. I don't know why. It's just it's one of the stupid things about my body. But anyway, just making better choices and and and really I'm really, really just I don't care. I'm gonna pat myself on the back. I have impressed myself with these two weeks of not doing sugar or monsters. Like I I just knew I would cave by by now. Yeah, but I haven't.

SPEAKER_01

Especially with like there's been cookies everywhere here at the church, bro. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Somebody had a crumble cookie box down there today. I seen it. I was walking by, yeah. I seen it.

SPEAKER_00

I think that was Tracy.

High Standards And Self-Compassion

SPEAKER_03

Man, what are you doing to me? But yeah, and then uh what was the other one? I've already forgotten what my Oh, sarcasm? Sarcasm. Yeah, thank you, Liv. Appreciate it. Uh thinking before I speak, I think would be uh a huge um, you know, just not saying the first thing that pops out. Yeah. I think that would be a huge help to that uh that whole thing. Yeah, but piggybacking on what Liv was saying about being more grateful for Tyler not about Tyler, but about Jennifer I have noticed lately that Jennifer has has really jumped leaps and bounds in in the way she interacts with people.

SPEAKER_01

100%.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Like at the move the Senior Saints movie night, I don't know if you saw her or not, but she like got in front of everybody and she's like, Okay, I'm the movie tonight. And I was like, Oh no, huh? Who the crap are you? That's awesome, no. Yeah, but just and I need it, which she listens, so I guess I am telling her now. What up, bunny? But just telling her, like, hey, I see you. Yeah, I I I recognize that that that's hard for you and you're making an effort and I appreciate it. So that's good. I like it. Yeah. What about yours?

SPEAKER_01

Um mine is We don't have any time. Let's get out of here. Uh no. Uh no, mine is mine is really understanding that that the way I the way I set the bar for other people when when it shouldn't be set there really affects my relationships and think about how it's more important to have this relationship than put unfair expectations on them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I got another I got another one for you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Accepting that you're not always right about everything. Yeah, yeah. Do that apply. Oh your son just jumped out of his seat and he was he didn't lose focus on that one.

SPEAKER_00

Nope. Your your mic wasn't muted there, buddy. Hey, whoa.

SPEAKER_01

There you go. So Liv, how's how's uh dumb and dumber over here?

SPEAKER_03

Can I finish my thought?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

Because I I and here's the thing I know your heart. You don't do it intentionally, you don't do it out of spite, you don't do it, you legitimately want people to know whatever it is that you're trying to communicate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That being said, sometimes you're not right. Yeah. And you have a hard time accepting that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I'm I and it it comes from a place of wanting to be educated on whatever I am, I am have an opinion on. Um yeah, that's that's definitely something I try not to speak if I don't know. Right. But I think it's hard. I enjoy conversating, so I think I get into some topics I don't know. I'm not I'm not fully educated on.

SPEAKER_03

Well that's that's how you become educated.

SPEAKER_01

So for sure. Now, did you have something to say about it?

SPEAKER_03

Not now. He's like, uh-uh. Jeez.

SPEAKER_01

No, but uh yeah, I just just and and I could even roll that into, you know, um the bar. The bar. It's just even even setting the bar for myself, I think I set kind of high sometimes. You do.

SPEAKER_03

You know, so even just just kind of realizing we're all human and and well, and that's what kills me about you is you can give everybody grace except yourself.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, I'm I'm the wor Oh, I'm um I would I would have no friends if I if I spoke to people and treated people the way I speak and treat to myself.

SPEAKER_03

That's that's not good.

SPEAKER_01

It's not, it's not, and I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

So I got another one for you. I need to have Yeah, okay. Keep it coming.

SPEAKER_01

Um I I I don't know how to not.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I really don't. And I last week was a rough week for me, and and that had a lot to do with it, is that that I did. I I I beat myself up and make myself upset sometimes because I want to I want to be further than I am, and I I've got all I've got is me to blame, right? But also I don't give myself any grace at all.

SPEAKER_03

Well and it's it's we're talking about all your stuff today. Hey, come on. But that as as your friend, it's it's difficult because there's nothing that I can say to relieve that. Yeah. So I just end up saying, hey, I'm here for you, you're doing the right thing, you know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

And it and it really is there and it's hard to say, even saying it out loud, I know this isn't something a way that I should think, but there's so many days and times I really dislike myself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we talked about that a couple weeks ago on here, and it it that question you asked really shook me. Yeah. Like I I thought about it for several days afterwards. Do I like myself? Yeah. And it's it's it's forced me to try to like myself more.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, to to become that person that you would like. I mean, I I really do. It's it's it's tough. I struggle a lot outside of being around people. When I get to myself, I really, really struggle. Yeah, and it is it is it's tough. You can't articulate that. Like I all I can tell Jamie is like I'm struggling today. I I don't know how to explain it because it's just me. It's it's she's you know, well, what's going on? I I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

Hot Takes Segment Begins

SPEAKER_03

I get that away when I'm sometimes I'm just emotional for no real reason. I'm just up in my feels, I guess. And just any little thing will will set me to crying or or yeah. And then I have the bad days when I'm on on one of my like hair triggers. Yeah. Where it's like anything is gonna set me off. Yeah. And I've gotten really good at recognizing those days and trying to stay away from people and not.

SPEAKER_01

Catch it at the head. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, we're gonna transition and get out of this just somber.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it kind of went dark there.

SPEAKER_01

You know, but hey, we're gonna we're working on it. We're working on it. We're all growing and advancing and moving forward and all that jazz. Amen. Um, but I want to go into a segment. We're not gonna do that's what's up. Dang. But we but we are gonna do that one. We are gonna do hot takes.

SPEAKER_02

I had one, but I forgot what it was.

SPEAKER_01

Sit and think about it a little bit. Hot takes. So this is something that maybe you think that maybe not be a popular opinion.

SPEAKER_03

So I I I told you about that. I had one when we first started talking about doing this. So I got this from the Simmons family, Thacker family, whoever the crap it is. That's good. He's got four families. I know, right? Man, here we go. He's like an Irishman. Yeah, but anyway, y'all are from Boston. Yep. And we there's Garcia's Simmons. Yeah, anyway, Miracle Whip instead of butter for grilled cheese.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh, that's a good one. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And when I when Julie first told me, and she's like, like, you're gonna do what now? Wait a second. That's what that's a grilled cheese. That's not a that's not a then that's that's not a and then of course first I thought she was gonna put it like in like in the sandwich.

Postpartum Depression And Church Mental Health

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Oh, that would be yeah, that would be weird. Like just warm.

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't any better when it was outside, Mike.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's more cooked into the bread than just like warm melted.

SPEAKER_03

But dang.

SPEAKER_01

It was good. That was good. That was good, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That was real good. And I I just assumed it would taste like Miracle Whip, but it doesn't. It it like I don't know what magic happens.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know how I don't know the science behind it, but that's a good one. Okay, yeah, okay. So we're gonna do take yours. Do you have a hot take?

SPEAKER_00

I had a couple.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, go we'll go one and we'll we'll keep we'll keep rotating. We'll bounce. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

One for me that's kind of like a personal one, you know, and not trying to like bring the mood back down again, but it is people like people not talking about mental health. Yeah, yeah, at all. Yeah. Especially like postpartum.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like they just don't talk about it. It's like you're not allowed to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think it's it's because so many people blame their problems on that that it gets like kind of wore wore out to where anytime you even bring it up, it's like people like, okay, all right, another one of these people, you know. And is that something you struggled with?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And like I'm totally transparent about it. Like I I'm started therapy because of it. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just I'm there was just one day, like, I was just going downhill really fast. Yeah. And um and uh it was just it I got to a point where um I text Tyler was like, I need help. Yeah. And like I almost didn't. And so I try to think like what if I didn't tell him? Yeah. Right. And he had no idea. Right. Like, you know, and it and I I wasn't I I wasn't like, I'm not suicidal, nothing like that. You know, but some some women and some people they get to that point. Yeah, absolutely. Because they don't think that they can talk about it. They don't think that they can feel what they're feeling and be okay. Like, it's not okay to feel the way you're feeling.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You know, like you should be grateful. You have kids, you have this and that, you know. It's like, yes, I am. Like, just because I feel this way does not mean that I'm not grateful and I'm not happy because of that. Yeah, it's just there's more going on. And I know a lot of it's with like hormone, you know, for women. That's a big that's a big thing, yeah. Yes, severely. And because those first two months for me specifically were awful.

SPEAKER_01

After after having the babies? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you know, once you get pregnant, then your hormones change. Then as you go along, they're constantly changing. Then you have them, so now they change again. So yeah, I I could only imagine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and and I was in and out of the hospital too, and I wasn't able to take care of my babies, and I wasn't able to breastfeed like I wanted to, and yeah, all these different things that are not happening the way that I wanted them to. Yeah. And that's another big thing is like you have these expectations and you feel like you have to meet them right because it's for your kids, yeah, and you don't meet them. Yeah. And then makes it feel worse. And it's like, oh, well, you know, I should just give up. Yeah. I quit. And it's like you can't do that.

SPEAKER_03

There is case after case after case of women with postpartum depression committing suicide or hurting their babies. I mean, it's a it's a real thing, and it really does need to be brought out a lot more, which is the same with depression and soldiers, you know, postpartum depression or postpartum, post-traumatic stress disorder. That needs to be done. I mean, mental health in general, yeah. It needs to, especially in the church.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and and I think that's the big thing, is is in in the secular world, everything is leaned that way, you know. In the church world, nothing leans that way. So I think we've gone the opposite way to well, just pray about it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you can't have that's the number one thing that you always see everybody say. And it's like, okay, I did that, yeah, but I also have to physically do something about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there are practical ways too that are that are outside of just spiritual. It's like you can't just eat hamburgers all day long every day and then just pray about it. Pray about good health. No, you have to do practical things to take care of your mental health, is the same way.

SPEAKER_00

You've got to do God gave us common sense. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01

That's why you need to exercise, you need to eat right, drink water.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

Why Vacations Feel Stressful

SPEAKER_01

Those things are, yes, there is a spiritual side to everything that we do, but there's also a physical side to the things that we do. Yes. You know, so it's it's not all leaning on one or the other. Like you don't want to, you don't want to give medicine to a spiritual issue, but you also don't want to give spiritual medicine to a physical issue. Yeah. You know, that's the whole thing. Oh, well, so-and-so's having a heart attack. Well, just pray for him. No, you need to take him to the doctor.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. There are there are divisions of Christianity that don't believe in doctors. Yeah. They don't believe that if God doesn't heal me.

SPEAKER_01

Luke was a doctor.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yes, he was. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_00

For like a split second.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god.

SPEAKER_03

I wish he would be a doctor.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no. What?

SPEAKER_03

Oh no. Talking about my Luke, my son. I wish he would.

SPEAKER_01

Oh no. You got your hot take?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The one-worded answers are back.

SPEAKER_02

So, okay, hear me out. Oh boy. Um, come on, Alan. Tell us about it. Vacations are more stressful than relaxing.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh. All right. Dude, I did not expect you to have a bro. We're all like, whoa.

SPEAKER_01

You are right. Yeah. Yeah. For the most part, yes.

SPEAKER_03

Especially for the parents.

SPEAKER_00

It it it that is that is really good. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And de and really depending on what you do, because you're talking weeks leading up to it. Yep. During, after, I mean just saving up the money. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And then worrying about the money when you come back. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That is that is a good one. Yeah. Yeah. So what what would be your ideal vacation to relax then?

SPEAKER_02

Branson. Um we go in a cabin and we just shop, go to the landing, go-karts, um, silver dollar city.

SPEAKER_01

He is my son, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03

Well, and I don't I don't I don't want to crap on your perfect vacation, but that's not that's not stress-free for your parents.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I mean it it it that is so good. It really is. Yeah. And do y'all think it's it's to try to live up to an expectation of what we want it to be?

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. Yeah. We've got an we got when we start planning a vacation, we've got an idea in our head of what we want this vacation to be. Yeah. Yeah. And then like live with the parenting. Yeah. It doesn't happen the way we plan it. And now all of a sudden it's wrong. It yeah. And a lot of times you'll miss out on the good time that you're having because it's not what you wanted it, what you pictured it being.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Or you're working so hard on making it perfect. Yep. And not just like, oh, this is good.

SPEAKER_00

That's I was gonna say that's another thing that I've been kind of working on too, with like the whole being grateful and stuff. It's like it's okay if it doesn't go how you think it's gonna go. Like, you know, like with the whole like all the babies and stuff. It's like they're fed, they're happy, that that's what matters.

True Crime And Pop Opinions

SPEAKER_01

It can be great without being perfect. Yes. You know, it's like, oh, this is fun. Well, and most of the vacations or stuff like that that we've that I've enjoyed the most was like kind of where we didn't do much. Right. Movie nights. Yeah, it's like, well, and that's what it's like, oh movie night again. It's like, yeah, that's to me, that's no stress. Yeah, the the whole stress of that is finding what movie we're gonna watch.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, then just what PJs am I gonna do?

SPEAKER_01

Popcorn and candy, and it's it is just so nice to sit there with your family and just watch something. You're I love it so much. Tyler and Liv will come over on Sunday night. We watch a movie together and eat. I love it so, so much. Seeing my friends and family in a room just watching, it's like that's how I love it. Yeah, it's good to believe. Really? I'm so pressed. That was so good.

SPEAKER_03

It's even better when there's lasagna.

SPEAKER_01

That is happening pretty soon. We're gonna have family. Okay, so my first hot take is Oh, there's a list. And I don't know if I don't know you, y'all may not know this is, but I feel like you will. I believe that, and this is just from recent I I watched a documentary. I believe that Gypsy Rose is a villain.

SPEAKER_03

I have no idea who that is. Yeah, I can't.

SPEAKER_01

You don't remember who that is? Okay, so that is the girl who who whose mom faked like she was sick and hurt and had cancer and all this stuff, and then it came out later that she was just fine.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but like she had like teeth pulled, yeah, like shaved her head, everything. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for like years, years, years, years. Yes. Well, and then she talked her boyfriend into unaliving her mom.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So then they went to prison. It pretty much all got put on the boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00

It's very it's it's interesting. And it was in Springfield.

SPEAKER_01

And it's like, and it's like I get she was the victim. Okay, I get she was the victim at first.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

But I was telling Jamie as we're watching, it's like after a while, you know you can walk. Like they had her in a wheelchair talking about she has this disease where she can't walk. It's like, you know you can walk. You're part of the lie now. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like you're you're not all you gotta do is stand up and everything's ruined.

SPEAKER_00

Like it it is like Well, like in the documentary you would talk about, I think I think it was the whatever. Anyways, like it talked about how um she how like her mom even got onto her a couple times for standing up.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And then like it was it was so weird. Like it was a mental thing with her mom. Yes, it yeah, and then and then Well, there's there's you can find them literally anywhere.

SPEAKER_01

They're all it's a crazy story. Yeah, well, and then the boyfriend, he had severe autism, all these things, and she like pocked him into doing like gave him all these directions. Yeah, she was the mastermind behind the mastermind behind her.

SPEAKER_00

There's this and that, like, she like put the gloves.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she put the gloves outside for him to get when he got there and put on his hands, and like, I'll give you the I'll give you what you need when you get in here. And it's like, and then it pretty much just all got pinned on him. And then, you know, when when all this happened and she went to jail and then she got out, and she's like, Oh, yeah, I don't love him anymore. Like, of course not. Yeah, you know, you had you you had him. It just made me so mad.

SPEAKER_00

It's very messed up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I and again, I get it. I'm not down, I'm not downplaying what happened to her. That's it's terrible. Yeah, but yeah.

Driving Hot Takes Get Heated

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's and it's like those people that they hang on to something that happened to them when they were a kid for 500 years, and it's like, can you grow up, please? Yeah, you're 45. Like, you know, yeah, that it sucks what happened to you, but you can move on from that. You're just choosing not to.

SPEAKER_03

You certainly can.

SPEAKER_00

Choosing to have a pity party.

SPEAKER_03

And there, I mean, there are there are traumas that are harder to get over than others. Yes, and but as a as a as a whole, you need to move forward with your life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's like you can't just hold on to that one moment for your and you can't blame that for everything you do. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yep. Yeah, yep, yep. Well, you got another one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but we're gonna get hate mail. Oh no. Oh gosh, okay. I'm not gonna say anything about little people. Yeah, right. It is a fact. I'm not even gonna look over here. Uh-oh. That women as a majority are bad drivers. Amen.

SPEAKER_00

Listen here.

SPEAKER_03

Ooh, hot take.

SPEAKER_02

And it's not, it's not just Whoa. I feel like I feel like that's not a hot take. I feel like everybody like understands that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Not if you ask women. Okay, Ezekiel. Okay. But and it's not even just the physical driving. Part of it. It's they don't give a crap. Yeah. Like, I don't care. Yeah. Like you were speeding. Yeah. I don't care.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Tyler gets on me for that ultimately.

SPEAKER_01

You didn't use your body.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I can't stand when Tyler rides in the passenger seat.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you just drive the telling you how to, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like Jennifer the same way. She's like, do you want to drive? No, I want you to drive correctly. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I'd want to make it okay.

SPEAKER_03

Do you use a blinker?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. Well, you're one of the few people who don't use a blinker are. They need to go back to the driving school.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's a good one. Mom would be like, man. Oh, easy. Oh, easy.

SPEAKER_03

You're gonna be walking.

SPEAKER_02

She listens, okay. She listens. If we're turning like into our house or something, she'd be turning like a psychopath. Like she'd be straight up like she'd be looking like she's hitting whipping nane.

SPEAKER_01

Like she and she she just denies it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Well, and every woman that I know, Tracy can't drive. Sam can't Sam can't see over the windshield, I understand.

SPEAKER_01

Over the stairing wheel.

SPEAKER_03

She can't see it in between. Jennifer, God love her, cannot drive. Yeah. Like she sees a stop sign and she's gonna wait till she gets there to stop. Yeah. It's annoying, and I hate it, and I want to live.

SPEAKER_01

Or like did she ever use a stop sign like it's a suggestion?

SPEAKER_03

No, she doesn't do that. Is that a Jamie thing?

SPEAKER_01

Right. Okay, that's good enough. Just tap on the brag. I go keep going. Like that's a stop sign supposed to stop.

SPEAKER_00

See for okay, so with me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, with that, down the road. I don't, I don't oh my gosh. Yeah, down the road, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What's it? That's what it means to me. It's my truth, okay, Richard. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01

So, those of y'all that don't know, let us know. Okay, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01

Does down the road mean across town? Or does down the road mean I am almost there?

SPEAKER_00

No, but down the road can be like, okay, I'm like five minutes away. I'm like right down the road.

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_01

That could be it's across town.

SPEAKER_04

It's across town.

SPEAKER_01

Down the road means you're on that road. Five minutes down the road is almost to Kenneth from here.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, you were saying give or take. Whatever. But um what was I saying? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Something about it. No, it's a tough sign. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't ignore them. Okay. Like I do stop. But sometimes, no, listen, sometimes, like obviously, if there's other cars there, I'm gonna fully stop and I'm gonna be like eyeballing everybody. Like, okay, who's gonna go? Because nobody ever knows whose turn it is. Stupid.

SPEAKER_03

Southern four way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So dumb. Anyways. But like if there's nobody there and any of them, I'm like, okay, I'll like kind of slow down a little bit. I won't fully stop.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Sometimes does the stop sign say stop only when people are around?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I do have glasses, so mom like be driving with no glasses. She's just blind mode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I will I which I'm a I'm not the best example of a of a normal driver. I drive very like Miss Daisy. Uh but I I will come to a four-way stop with nobody there, come to a complete stop, look all four, and continue on. It's a problem.

SPEAKER_03

But it does say stop.

SPEAKER_01

So I I mean I I stop to the point of somebody could get out and get in the back seat by the time I go again.

SPEAKER_03

You're doing Chinese pirate right there at the stop sign.

SPEAKER_02

I saw this video where it was like technically speed limits are a suggestion. And it cuts to this one guy. Nope. Where it's like, it's like for America, no, but for Texas, yes.

SPEAKER_01

Texas is in America. I don't know what he is watching.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I said.

SPEAKER_00

Listen, I'll usually go about five over.

SPEAKER_01

That's where I will get it.

SPEAKER_03

There are roads in Texas that have 85 mile an hour speed limits.

SPEAKER_00

So don't tell Tyler that he's there right now. That's mad. Well, he will be tonight.

unknown

All right.

SPEAKER_01

So next hot take for you, Liv. Oh.

SPEAKER_00

And this is one that me and Tyler have talked about. People over the age of 60 or 65 need to retake their driver's test.

SPEAKER_01

We have to while we're talking about it. We have talked about that. Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

I agree. Like 1,000%.

SPEAKER_01

Well, again, you have to take it at 16. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And then that's it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So that's a long time in between. Yeah. It's like, I mean, because you your vision changes, your reaction time changes. Yeah. Like you your height changes for some people. I mean, it like.

SPEAKER_03

And it drives like if you can't drive the speed limit, get off the highway. It's just that simple.

SPEAKER_01

I am just move. I am not over exaggerating. Me and mom went to Pauper Bluff last week and and an older person. Okay, you've got the two lines where your car goes in between.

SPEAKER_03

That is where they that is where you drive, yep.

SPEAKER_01

Four wheels in between with room on each side. Nice little parking spot. This woman, I am no word of a lie, had half a tire in between the lines, the rest of them were out. No. It's not good. Parking spot. Car. In the like in the driveway, sideways, one tire in the parking spot, the other ones are in the driveway where cars are going left and right. Gets out and walks in the store.

SPEAKER_03

It's like that's good enough. Yeah. And just thinks that everybody should just drive around her.

SPEAKER_01

I thought I was on a prank TV show.

SPEAKER_03

Ashton!

SPEAKER_01

You totally got me. Like, man, like wow. Wow. That's not good. Do you have another one?

SPEAKER_03

Um, it won't be as good as the first one.

SPEAKER_01

The first one was pretty good.

SPEAKER_02

Hear me out. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um weddings are kind of just like overpriced parties. That's pretty good. Yep. Pretty good. Yep. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And it's for one day. Depends on the wedding. Depends on the wedding.

SPEAKER_03

For one day. Yeah. And you spend all this money, which it's the same as prom. You know, you spend all that money on the dress you wear one time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's dumb.

SPEAKER_01

It is dumb. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one too, man. Not bad. Not bad. Okay, my next one is um I'm gonna do two because this one, well, the first one's not something we can really even talk about. I think um if you like another team or you don't care, I don't think you should talk crap at sporting events.

SPEAKER_03

If you like another team.

SPEAKER_01

So say Super Bowl. Two teams are in it. Yeah. If your team's not in it, I don't think you should be able to talk mess on the people's teams who are in it. And likewise, if you like So the only game I watch is the Super Bowl. So Yeah. So watch it and enjoy it. But don't people like to so say if Zeke's favorite team is in the NBA finals and so-and-so doesn't care or their team's out of it, they'll come just to talk crap to him about his team that is actually there. I think you should just be quiet. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_02

I hate okay, wait.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

Uh oh, I can't stand these people.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02

Stop switching teams.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Six times just because they're doing good. Yeah. Fair fans.

SPEAKER_01

Stay with it. I can't stand it. Stick with your team. Yeah. Stick with your team. Stick with your team. Good, bad, ugly. Stick with your team.

SPEAKER_03

Their dad's been a fan of the most horrible team ever for years.

SPEAKER_02

Journey. Woo!

SPEAKER_01

80 years of losing. Like, man. Uh next I take backstreet boards are better than in sync. Oh, moving on.

SPEAKER_03

That's facts.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I think.

SPEAKER_03

That's that's there's not even a debate.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03

Who's JT? I don't listen to that. Oh, easy. Let's go. Jason Tatum. He's breaking sexy back, apparently.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, what else you got? You got another one? I don't. Okay. Lev, you got another one? Um this will take a while. Why do you think I'll go with my next one? Johnny Cash is overrated.

SPEAKER_03

You're gonna fall into a burning ring.

SPEAKER_01

Not saying he's bad. I just think he's overrated.

SPEAKER_03

I just don't think he's as good as and I I I agree with you because we've talked about this ad nauseum. Yeah. Because I disagree. Yeah. But I agree with the fact that if he was a musician today, he would not have done as well as he did.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. To me, you you should be able to put them in any kind of era and still go, they would do good. They would be successful.

SPEAKER_03

I just don't think you can Michael Jackson would not have done well in the 50s.

SPEAKER_01

I I disagree. Only because only because in the fifth everything was so the way he danced and moved was just not allowed. So I I don't think that's an uh uh an easy comparison there because most of what he done was just not legal.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I understand that, but it's still the the point still stands that it you can't. No, because it has nothing to do with his singing or ability. You can't take uh an artist out of one era and drop them in another era and expect them to do well regardless.

SPEAKER_01

But that is apples and oranges. Name one. I could I could take if you take Johnny Cash out of that era and put him in that there is nothing stopping him from doing exactly what he did then. If you take Michael Jackson out and put him in the 50s, you're stopping half of what I understand it.

SPEAKER_03

He does. Name one artist that could do that you could do that with.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Guns and Roses.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_01

You you think that Guns N' Roses would not be a successful band in 2026? No.

SPEAKER_02

I need some popcorn.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know how many people in 2026 download that music?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, that's because it's classic. It's not it's it's classic.

SPEAKER_01

Because it's good music. It's classic. Just because it's classic doesn't mean people are gonna listen to it. You could go, oh well, uh, I don't know, Reba. No, I ain't gonna get on Reba now. Let me calm down. Let me calm down. Don't you dare. But you could take any any band from the 80s and go, well, it's classic music. Doesn't mean people like it now.

SPEAKER_02

Doesn't mean people listen to it now. Richard should bring up what he said like thirty like a couple minutes back.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, about the being right. Yeah, be quiet. Uh we'll agree to disagree. Yeah. Because I don't think so. But I I love Guns and Roses.

SPEAKER_03

But that's because I was I grew up in that era.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm I mean, even and well, kids now are listening to that music.

SPEAKER_03

That is true. Uh Emily likes just the most random music from every genre. She's a huge fan of Tyler.

SPEAKER_01

Do you say she's like really big on Michael Jackson?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she's big in Michael Jackson. So you're making the point. I am. I am actually making the point. But anyway, but yeah, she uh she likes it. She's she's not the norm, though. She's not normal.

SPEAKER_01

That's not I mean, that's true.

SPEAKER_04

That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Um what is someone that you really like that you that you don't that you think is overrated? It's like someone but you enjoy. Or it or either it could be even a movie.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I there's some I I really like Willie Nelson.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03

But I don't think that he can sing. Yeah, like yeah, like he has a terrible voice, but I enjoy his music.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, that's how I am with uh with um Gwen Stefani. Yeah, no doubt. I really love her music. I don't think she's very good.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

She's like she talks a lot and doesn't sing. Like I don't think she's a good singer.

SPEAKER_03

Speaking of that, I introduced Emily to a song, quote unquote song called Teddy Bear.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know if you are aware of it, but it's a it's a it's a very old country song, and it's it's talking all the way through the song. Oh, it's technically not a song.

SPEAKER_01

Right, there's music behind talking, but it is a tearjerker. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Should listen to it sometime. Teddy Bear? Teddy Bear. Okay, check that out.

SPEAKER_02

I got two hot takes. Go ahead. Um first one. Silence isn't awkward. It's the people that make it awkward.

SPEAKER_01

It's a little deep. It's deep. I don't even know what to say to that. Well, I wanted there to be an awkward silence. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You need a cricket button up there.

SPEAKER_01

What's your what's your um we used to have one?

SPEAKER_02

Home, home, like home all in the rain.

SPEAKER_01

With a deer in the antelope.

SPEAKER_03

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02

Home. Like I was saying. Oh, home isn't about the place. It's about the people.

SPEAKER_01

That's a fact. Yep. It's not really a hot take. That's just a good fact.

SPEAKER_02

Hey.

SPEAKER_01

He told me.

SPEAKER_02

That's good. Cold's better than hot.

SPEAKER_01

A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Disagree. But but for winter is a is a is a extremely better.

SPEAKER_04

What?

SPEAKER_01

Weather.

SPEAKER_03

Well, when your bones hurt the way mine do.

SPEAKER_02

Here's the thing for me. I feel like like for showers, I like hot showers better than cold showers. Yeah. But the perfect weather, in my opinion, is fall. Like near end fall, kind of. Yeah. Where it's like Halloween type temperature where it's not hot, but it's a little bit more colder than it is hot.

SPEAKER_03

Well, around here you'll be sweating in your Halloween costume.

Healthcare Costs And Insurance Frustrations

SPEAKER_02

So in like in the winter, I got so many colds from winter. Like I was so sick during basketball season. Yeah. So I couldn't play that much. Well, I did play the games, but I didn't play as good as I could. That's why I like the fall better, because you still have some of that like heat.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I like it. What else you got on your mind, heart? I got two more. Two more. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00

Two more. And then I think I'm good. Let's go. So and these are ones that I've always thought is that I had to write them down so I didn't forget while we were talking. Because I would have. Um lady brain. For real. Mom brain right there. Mom of twin brain right there. Twin. Clearly I can't talk. Yeah. Okay. I'm not fluent in English. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

It's okay. Try sarcasm. Good language.

SPEAKER_00

Um that healthcare should be free.

SPEAKER_03

Oof. Okay. Well, and then we'll unpack that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. And and like there, I mean, there are some things with that that I'm like, okay, like I get it. You know, I get why it's not. And then stay-at-home moms should be paid.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Okay. Both of those. I could not disagree with more. I'm going to have the same point to both of those. Who's going to pay? Who's going to pay for healthcare? And who's going to pay the stay-at-home mom?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because somebody has to. And it's going to be the taxpayer, which means taxes go up, which mean prices go up. So nay nay. Well, which still means somebody's paying for it.

SPEAKER_01

So it's still not free. Right. You know?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. And like I said, there are things with the that it's like, you know, you get it. Like I get why they're not.

SPEAKER_03

I do, however, feel that there should be salary caps on doctors. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think I think absolutely. Yeah. I think I would agree. Healthcare needs to be way more affordable. Absolutely. That is that is something I think anybody outside of the 1% can go. This is outrageous. This is a little crazy. And I get we are the United States is the leading by far, the leading country on medical breakthroughs. Because we've got the doctors and scientists that are doing these things and finding these medicines and blah, blah, blah. And it's readily available. We've got medicine that we that you can go in right now to a Walmart clinic that we can get that other countries that have free, you know, healthcare that can't get all that. It is still way too expensive. This is crazy. It is crazy. You know, people should not have to decide health or go into debt. That should not be. So I would agree to that, to that extent. Like it is, it is nonsense. A ambulance ride five minutes down the road should not be 20 grand.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_01

That is just crazy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. You know, absolutely no reason for it.

SPEAKER_01

And doctors being able, I think doctors should have a salary cap in some way, shape, or form. Salary cap. I think they should be held more accountable. They shouldn't have just complete autonomy on, well, you know, it's a science that we could or could not work.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, I just thought of another one. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Like it's just it so that should be taken care of now with the women stay-at-home moms. So then should stay-at-home dads be paid?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So then both would just stay at home. So now we have no workforce. Like if you have kids, stay at home.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, I mean, like, you know, I know that there's like, you know, down points to both of them. You know, I think that's just being realistic.

SPEAKER_01

And to add on to that, I think, I think this, and I don't want, I don't want this to sound bad. It's gonna sound bad. I think because I I had to do it. When I got hurt, I had to do it. I had to be the stay at home while Jamie went to work. I think that I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out how to say this without it being so bad.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, this episode's gonna get canceled.

SPEAKER_01

I think I think a stay-at-home mom is a is a very, very important job. I don't want to downplay the importance of it. I I would rather, I would rather us be financially stable enough for Jamie to stay home. I think that is a great, great, great benefit. I, however, do not think that it is hard as hard as a lot of stay-at-home moms like to make it to be. And I say that because I had to do it for months.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_01

And I didn't know what to do with the other six hours of the day that I sat at home. Clean the house, food's ready, groceries are done. Here we are. I've I lit it, I literally got to just sit and play video games all day. And everything was done. The house was clean, laundry was done, the food was was ready to go. 2K. I just like, and again, I get it. There are kids, you gotta get kids ready, gotta do this, this, this. But go work at a factory for 14 hours. Oh, thank you. And see if yeah, staying at home is a little bit more simple than like, oh, it's the hardest job in the world. I'm sorry, what? No, have you been on an oil rig? Have you seen some of these jobs that these people have to do? Like, no, it is important. It is, I wish every mom could stay at home and take care of the kids because it's so it's so good that to have that with with your kids. But I just I think that's uh it's been overblown to seem more harder than it really is. I love y'all though.

SPEAKER_02

I got another hot take.

SPEAKER_01

Hold up, Liv's got another one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, this this is actually my last one because I thought about what we were talking about it. Yeah. Um, is that insurance and I work in insurance, so I I don't care.

SPEAKER_01

I think we're gonna be on the same page on this one.

SPEAKER_00

Not anymore. Sorry, Mike. Sorry, Mike, if you're listening. Um insurance should not be able to decide if a like a treatment or a surgery or whatever is medically necessary.

SPEAKER_04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Like come on. Why why do they get to decide? That's you know, that's why we have doctors. Yeah, it's oh, is that what they're for?

SPEAKER_04

That's what they're in a school for.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you and then you send it off your insurance are like, no, they don't need it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

What do you mean? It's radiation for cancer. What do you mean they don't need it? Need to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and and who's and who's regulating them to make those decisions? Nobody. Yeah. They're their own corporate doctors. Yeah. Well, and to even go even further. If I pay for a year of insurance for my car,$100 a month, it's$1,200 a year. If I don't have to use that insurance, I fully believe I should get just half.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Half of it back. I get you need to make money. Give me if I did if if you had to spend nothing, you as a company, it cost you nothing.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

To cover me for the year. I didn't use. Give me half of my money back.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

A third. Or put it towards anything.

SPEAKER_00

Like use it towards bill, or you know, the medical bills or whatever.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

But no.

SPEAKER_01

We just keep it for what?

SPEAKER_03

And I'm I'm dealing with that right now. I need an MRI on my shoulder. Yeah. Well, but then she sent it to the insurance. The insurance said no. So now I gotta go to a specialist to see if they can get me an MRI. Yeah. Why? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because it's even more money. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So the specialist can get more money.

SPEAKER_01

And do they have I because I I legitimately don't know this. Do they have access to your medical bit to know? I assume when you take them on, you give them that access to your to look at your because I don't know how they would judge that. Oh, they don't need that or they do need that.

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

They just I think that I which I don't know this because I'm not inside of the actual insurance stuff. I just answer the phones. You know, answer the phones, answer questions. Um I mean, I don't I think that they just have like this like rule book or playbook, whatever that they go by. This green. They're like, oh, let me look here. Nope, we don't cover that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

And it seems like it's constantly changing.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. So okay, I've had nothing, nothing is cleared. Nothing makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

It's like I've had this same insurance for 10 years, and five years ago I was covered for A, B, and C. Now it's H, J, and X, and the next year it'll be B and Z. Like, how am I supposed to keep up with what I'm covered for and what I'm not?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, here's a 48,000 page document for you to read over. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Don't forget to do that. Well, you literally literally have to read everything to actually understand what it you're covered under. It's crazy. It is. It's nice. And if you don't ask about it, they're not gonna tell you. Oh yeah. Like they're just they're not.

SPEAKER_01

That's a good, that's a good one. What'd you have?

SPEAKER_00

I feel better now. Sorry. Yes. Oh, that's I think that one that one.

SPEAKER_02

I I feel like okay, because you're a teacher. Okay. You're a hit you was a teacher. Okay. Or teachers be lying like crazy about either they don't have favorites or getting everybody in trouble. Because they'd be like, they'd be like, oh, everybody was talking. Three people.

SPEAKER_01

And everybody gets yeah. Okay. I've always said this. You can't help but to have favorites.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there's no way you could not.

SPEAKER_01

Because if kid A is a jerk and kid B is is just a great kid, obviously you're gonna favor one over the other. Now you try not to let that come out. Right. But obviously, I'm gonna let kid B, who's never a problem, and today they ask three times to go to the bathroom, and they never do, they never get in trouble. Obviously, I'm gonna be a little bit more lenient than kid A. So really I think the blame needs to be back on the kid. On, well, have you been a jerk to your teacher? Maybe they treat you that way because you're a bad kid, because you're being a bad kid in their class, and now their eyes are on you at uh at all times, so you're constantly getting in trouble because you're constantly doing something to get in trouble.

SPEAKER_03

You know what's really difficult is when you apply that to the family dynamic. Yeah, because it's the same thing. Yeah, you know, you have some kids that give you more trouble within your own family. Yeah, so you're more lenient with the kids that give you less trouble. Yeah, yeah. If you've been bugging me all day long and been in trouble all day, and then at night you asked me to do whatever, you're probably not right, right.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they got to go do it. Yeah, they've been listening all week, you haven't. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Like I'm not even kick their brother in the shin. Right.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'm not just deciding to let them do it and you not because I'm going, hmm, let's see. I'm gonna let you. No, they've been listening, you haven't. They got to do it, you don't. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty straightforward and easy, I would think. Not for kids' brains, it ain't well, and again, everybody gets in this, you know, who, like just talking about my kids. Who's your favorite? Oh, Zay's your favorite, Lee's your favorite, Zeke's your favorite. Well, it really depends on the time and what's going on. And you would look and go, well, obviously he's a favorite, and then tomorrow I'd be obviously she's a favorite. It's like it depends on what is happening. You know, Zeke ain't listening to me all week after I've told him to clean his room 58 times. He has to go somewhere, I say no. Zay comes up and goes, Hey, can I go to friends' house? Yeah. Well, how come she gets to go? Uh, because her room's clean. She's done what I asked her to all week. Yep. Yep. It's pretty simple. I mean, I would think.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna make sure my kids listen to this episode. The more you know.

SPEAKER_02

I had another hot take, but I forgot. Yeah. One of them was like debit cards or credit cards is better than cash. In what way? It takes less time to like scan a QR code and just automatically goes to your Cash App and Pay than having to count up like twenties and get your change back. That's true. But you should have been around for the days of checks.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, you ain't lying. That really took behind somebody at Walmart. Like, sign this check. You don't know how to do it? What an idiot. Um so it again, it depends. Because you go to a store and their internet's out.

SPEAKER_03

That could happen.

SPEAKER_01

That money's always gonna be good.

SPEAKER_03

Or the bank declines your card because you're a town away from where you normally are. Right.

SPEAKER_01

You know, so then it's like, oh, this doesn't work. So then you're out of luck. I try to carry a little bit of cash on me and then cards so that you have both.

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I know.

SPEAKER_01

Because I've ran into a I'd have been stuck in some bad situation.

SPEAKER_03

I I never carry cash. I probably should, but I just don't.

SPEAKER_01

I got I got lucky. I was on my way home from somewhere and my gas light was on. I'm like, man, I gotta stop and pull over somewhere. Pulled over, went in to use it. Hey, I'm sorry, our debit card machine is broke. I'm like, I cannot make it to the next town.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Ran to the car, I had like$10 stuffed in the thing. I'm like, oh thank God. I'd have been in some trouble.

SPEAKER_00

I used I used to keep cash in the car all the time. And then I just I got out of the habit of it.

SPEAKER_03

Until somebody bust your window for your cash. It's five bucks.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it's like just please, just I'll unlock it and give it to you. Take the ten dollars, don't break the three hundred dollar window, please. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, sorry. I can't think of it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm telling you, the hot tags is crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. So this one actually makes me so mad. We can tell because we had this experience.

SPEAKER_03

Getting heated over there.

SPEAKER_00

I'm telling you what. And so whenever we got our car, our tracks, okay, we bought it brand new off the lot, okay, and we got the bumper to bumper coverage on it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, I remember when y'all went through this. What does Okay, hold on? What does bumper to bumper? I'm sorry, I'm I'm right what does bumper to bumper mean for you?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I I know where this is going.

SPEAKER_01

I know what it should say, but that's I'm not saying what it should say. If I tell you that you have from wall to wall coverage, what does that tell you? It's gonna cover the carpet. That everything from this wall to this wall is covered.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Carry on.

SPEAKER_00

So I I need I genuinely need somebody to explain it to me because it is the stupidest thing on the planet.

SPEAKER_03

The whole planet.

SPEAKER_00

If the entire planet, even Mars, okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's a different planet. But let's go ahead and move on from just Mars. All of them just Mars.

SPEAKER_00

The rest of them are fine. So, like, why is it that the windshield is the only thing, the only thing that is not covered on the bumper to bumper coverage? That's it, that's the only thing that's not covered on there.

SPEAKER_03

Question for your warranty company.

SPEAKER_00

Well, they're stupid, first of all. I don't want to talk to them.

SPEAKER_01

And I could tell you why, because it's the one thing that gets messed up the most, and they don't want to pay for it multiple times. Even though, and and to me, that's false advertising. Yes, you are lying. Yes, it is not bumper to bumper, then, because in between this bumper to that bumper is my windshield.

SPEAKER_03

That's where it exists, and it's a lie.

SPEAKER_01

You are lying, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, bumper to the end of the hood, and then the top of the right.

SPEAKER_01

It's like I don't five and below. You are lying. No, you are a liar. There's like three things in there that you are not five and below. Store. You are lying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, dollar twenty-five.

SPEAKER_01

Like five dollars.

SPEAKER_03

You know how much it costs to rebrand. I don't care. Then it'd be the two dollar store. Like it just it like you you're just blatantly lying. I will say that the insurance came through when I hit that deer on Jennifer's car. It was like six thousand dollars. Oh nang. And we only paid the deductible. So it works when it works.

SPEAKER_02

Red Bull does not give you wings.

SPEAKER_01

That's that's a fact.

SPEAKER_02

I've tried that before. Don't try it.

SPEAKER_01

And I I I definitely think uh a lot of insurance is scams. Yes, I was about to say it's legal scams. Not only legal scams, it's you you have to get it. Yeah. That's that's what that's the worst thing, is like they make you get it.

SPEAKER_03

That was the extreme part of the scam. Yeah. Was getting states to regulate that you have to have it.

SPEAKER_01

It it it's just like if I don't want to have insurance my car for my car and I pay out of pocket, I shouldn't be made to have insurance for my car.

SPEAKER_03

There is a new city ordinance in Kenneth. If you do not have insurance, they tow your car.

SPEAKER_00

Oh dang.

SPEAKER_01

Like from where you get stopped.

SPEAKER_00

That's a bit excessive. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

They will. I'm glad I don't drive. It's geez. And then they could just raise price, no regulation, they could just raise prices and go, oh yeah, we're just gonna raise it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We get that with like at our office all the time. Obviously, I'm not gonna say where it is.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I will. Hang on. Oh, oh dang.

SPEAKER_00

Can we cut that out? Sorry, technical difficulties. But like with um yeah, with our office, we get calls all the time. Why do my you know, why is my payment this time so much more? It's like, and we don't know about it ahead of time. We have no clue, we have no idea. They don't they don't tell us, they don't give a heads up.

SPEAKER_03

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00

So we're like, oh, let me look into that. And so we're spending 30 minutes on the phone trying to figure out why their you know their policy went up. Yeah, and it went up like$400. Yeah, and like it's crazy. And the answer is because yeah, it's like, oh well, we had a rate increase. That's literally the only answer that I have.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and there's no reason or rhyme behind just yeah, because we decided as a company to make it more expensive, and they're like, Well, why?

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, um, yeah, let me get you my age. Because I I mean, I you know, I can't answer that. I have no idea. And he's like, limited knowledge. I don't know. Yeah, and like even half the time he doesn't know. He's like, We just had a rate increase that is, you know, and it's it happens, you know, and they get mad at us, and I understand why, but it's like, you know, I understand why they're mad.

Disclaimer And Goodbye

SPEAKER_01

And again, if if I sign paperwork at rate this, you should not, as a company, get to go at your discretion and go, hey, I know you signed on for this much, yeah, but we're just gonna change it.

SPEAKER_04

Right. Yep.

SPEAKER_01

That's like going to a workplace, like, hey, we're gonna hire you. This is how much you get paid, and you go there, and on Wednesday they go, Hey, I know we hired you at$10 an hour. We're gonna give you six. Right. Um, no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And there's no recourse. There's no nothing you can do. Yep. Because you have to have it. Yeah. It's wild, man. The only thing you can do is shop around, and that's a nightmare scenario in and of itself. Yep. Yep. Progressive is horrible about communicating. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

I sure love y'all. Love you back. If you have been affected by these hot takes, please know that we love you.

SPEAKER_02

My dad, my dad started it on.

SPEAKER_01

Please know that that this is just our opinions. In no way, shape, or form are these facts, in no way, shape, or form, are we condoning or or saying this is this is facts.

SPEAKER_03

Everything I said was a fact.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. We are just we are just giving our opinions, whether we agree with each other or not. We love you so much. Everybody, have a great rest of your day.