Almost Brothers Podcast
Whats up whats up whats up.. welcome to your new favorite podcast. Join your hosts Michael, Richard, and Tyler as we discuss God, church, life, and the journey through this crazy world. Get away from the stresses of life with this podcast. We will be hitting on various topics from sports, to life with Christ.
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Almost Brothers Podcast
When Forgiveness Isn’t A Free Pass
Ever been told that “forgiveness means another chance,” even when the pattern keeps repeating? We open up about the real difference between grace and access, and why wise boundaries protect your heart, your time, and your team just as much as they honor your faith. From the friend who only calls when they need help to the coworker who drifts in late, we unpack how to weigh severity, read patterns, and make clear choices without carrying bitterness.
We get practical about relationships that matter most. In marriage, equal effort is the goal, not the daily reality. Some days one of us carries more, and that’s okay if the habit tilts back toward balance. We talk about cultivating a symbiotic mindset, catching ourselves when we repeat the same mistake, and showing change through consistent action. On teams and in church settings, punctuality is love in practice. Clear call-time windows, simple communication, and small course corrections rebuild trust faster than apologies alone.
We also lighten the mix with nostalgia TV talk—why certain reboots miss the mark, how some overplay corny cues, and what Cobra Kai gets right about character growth and earned callbacks. The throughline stays the same: authenticity, accountability, and growth are what make connections strong, whether on screen or off. If you’ve wrestled with where to draw the line between second chances and self-respect, this conversation gives you language and tools to set guardrails without hardening your heart.
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We're on the clock now. Woo! Yeah. Oh, wait, no. You can't see me. R.I.P. Oh man. John Cena. He's not dead. Oh no. Yeah. Oh, no. I was wrestle in peace with an R.
SPEAKER_02:What are you? R.I.P. In peace. That still implies that he's dead. He's he's very much alive.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, my bad. Um uh happy retirement. Yeah. Wrestle in props.
SPEAKER_02:What? Okay. Doesn't even make any sense. Listen, don't disrespect the Dr. Thugonomics. No. Thugonomics. Thugonomics. Man, it was we we watched that the other night, and uh Liv uh was kind of sitting next to me and she looks over and she goes, It's so sad. Oh gosh, it's wrestling. Well I was like, I kind well I kind of had that feeling too because like his his career spanned most of my life and I've watched Tim ever he was because you know obviously I'm a lot younger than y'all. Uh a lot.
SPEAKER_01:A lot two tree years. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:A lot. But like he was one of the first wrestlers that I saw at the very start of their career in the WWE.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, and saw the whole way.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's true. I don't want to talk about the ones that I saw.
SPEAKER_02:He was there when Rick before Rick Flair was Rick Flair.
SPEAKER_01:No, I Richard Richard was there when they were wrestling in the Coliseum. The Roman Coliseum.
SPEAKER_00:All right, two things. On point. Number two, not funny.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's not funny. That's why we're not laughing.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man. But I was I was uh junkyard dog, Roddy Piper, Hulk Hogan. That was that was my guys back in the 80s, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not a good man of those guys, so I was kind of right there. I was it was kind of the tail end of that stuff. Sergeant Slaughter. Oh man, I forgot Sergeant Slaughter. There's a bunch of good ones. He was the one with the big chin, right? Yep. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Almost Brothers podcast. With me, as always, you got Richie Rich.
SPEAKER_00:Yaza.
SPEAKER_01:And Ta Ta. What?
SPEAKER_00:I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02:What'd you huzzah? Yes, uh.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what that was, but I huzzah! Huzzah ye fair maiden. I don't that's what they said when they were wrestling in the Roman Coliseum.
SPEAKER_00:So how y'all doing? I was better until y'all started making fun of me.
SPEAKER_01:I'm sorry. Tyler, what stop that? I don't want to say he asked for it, but I know it was a rough week for for me and Rich, man. We were down with the flu and not feeling good.
SPEAKER_00:It was not fun.
SPEAKER_01:It wasn't. It wasn't.
SPEAKER_00:Worked one day and didn't get any actual time to not work.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty rough.
SPEAKER_00:I slept for a whole day. Yeah, it was rough, man.
SPEAKER_01:Rough, rough. It was but on today's episode, it's gonna be a little bit of a shorter one, but uh on today's episode, we're gonna be talking about how many, how many first and second, third, and fourth, and fifth chances do you give someone until you finally have to say, you know what? Maybe the thing that I'm having to give you multiple chances on, maybe you're just not good at that. Maybe not do that. Right. Like, because of course, you know, we talk from a biblical standpoint, like talking about forgiveness, like that's a complete different thing. Like forgiving somebody and letting them just, you know, just keep doing like, you know, if you go to McDonald's eight times and eight times they mess up your order and it's undercooked, you're probably gonna go, I'm probably not gonna do that again. Just out of, I'm gonna use my brain here and go, that's a bad McDonald's. I'm not gonna do that.
SPEAKER_00:And it it inevitably decides it depends on the severity of the offense, right? You know, if you rob me of a thousand dollars, I'm probably not gonna give you that opportunity again.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right. It's like, or someone, you know, someone steals from you. Like, I know, oh man, I was reading about Dane Cook, the comedian. Yeah, and oh gosh, I had seen him in a hot minute. His brother, his brother stole like millions of dollars from was like embezzling money. And it's like, you would probably not hire that person again to be your accountant. Like, you know, it's like after a while, it's like, no, you don't get a second chance on that. And I I I feel like people, especially when they know you're a Christian, expect that they could just push that boundary with you and push it and push it and push it. And it's like, and then they want to get upset when you go, Yeah, I'm probably not gonna have you do that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Well, that's not very Christian like of you. You're supposed to forgive me.
SPEAKER_01:Right. It's like, yeah, that's fine. I forgive you. Like, I'm not mad, I'm not like angry at you. I don't want any will, I'm just not I'm also not dumb. Right. I'm not gonna put myself in that position again because why common sense?
SPEAKER_00:So I don't want to do that. It drives me crazy when people that aren't Christian want to want to tell you you're not Christian, like they have a clue what the standard is.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's good too. That's that's yeah. I love seeing uh there's like a there's like a saying it's like atheists always get mad at the one thing they don't believe exists, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, and try to use the book that they don't believe. Yeah. And it's like, nope, okay, all right, that's what we're doing. Okay, cool. But it's just like, does that not frustrate y'all when someone does that and like look at you like you should let me do this again to you?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's like uh no, I'm not gonna do that.
SPEAKER_00:And specifically use the fact that you are a Christian to to try and get that over on you.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think it's even more annoying if they know what they're doing. Yeah, right. It's one thing if they're just completely oblivious and you have like because there are some people like that, and they may and it they may be genuine and not think that whatever it is they're doing or done was wrong or whatever. Yeah. And may need no that conversation. Yeah. But then there are those people that are like, okay, I know what I did. They know good and well. Round two. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they know good and well what you did. And you but and you want me to open that door again?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Especially after it's a couple times.
SPEAKER_02:It's like and there are those people that that genuinely abuse that. Yeah. Like uh they'll they'll get mad at me. We'll have a conversation, I'll say, Oh, I'm sorry, I won't do it again. And then do it again. Back to square one.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Yep. My boy. And it's like it gets to where you you you don't harden your heart, but you stop trusting like new people because of what someone else has done. Right. You know, so it's like, oh, I'm not gonna ever let that happen again to me. So then you don't even let people into that space.
SPEAKER_02:Well, it's it's kind of like you say, it's common sense. Why am I gonna put my myself in a position to, you know, get my feelings hurt? Yep. You know, it's like Liv had this friend that uh I'm not gonna say I told her so. Um but she had but she had this friend that would Liv always tried to hang out with her. Ah, she's always busy. Call her up, hey, can you help me do this? I'm like, Liv. That's she's usually when is when is the last time she has asked you just to hang out? Right. Not for anything. Once and I and I mean Liv finally called, we haven't spoken to her in a long time. Yeah, and it's not that she was like that to Liv and Liv doesn't forgive her or anything, but it's kind of like why do you want to stay in a friendship or relationship with someone that's putting zero effort into it when you're trying to put as much effort as you can into it.
SPEAKER_00:And they make you the bad guy. Yeah, race relationship is a two-way street, has to be, or else it's not a relationship.
SPEAKER_01:It's not a highway and a bike path.
SPEAKER_00:Sure.
SPEAKER_02:I was like I was I was telling Michael earlier this week, kind of like in a marriage, things aren't always gonna be 50-50. And it but this is just my opinion. I think that needs to be the goal and the effort to strive and and because I don't want I don't want Liv's plate of stress to be so much more than mine, and I don't want mine to be so much more than hers. We need to try and kind of balance each other out, but there's gonna be days where I'm gonna have to take on more stress. She may have to take on some more stress. That's what that's what being in a marriage is supposed to be like. Right. But the goal is equal effort on both sides.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's a partnership, you know, it's business. Yeah, it's a bit business. Yeah, it it's so much more than yeah, than just hey, we're together, like it's just me and you, like we live together, we we do everything together. It's we're literally, I depend on you and you depend on me.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Like we depend on each other. So it has yeah, it has to be that. So even in a marriage, after a while, it's like, hey, look, you you keep doing this thing, right? Knowing it's something that causes a problem. Stop doing the thing.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's it, and there's a word for it, it's symbiotic.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it means to isn't that a thing from Spider-Man?
SPEAKER_01:It's a symbiote. Symbiote. No, it's a thing from science. But Benham. Science, Spider-Man, same thing.
SPEAKER_02:It's basically the same thing. Spider-Man is science. It might as well be science, man.
SPEAKER_01:Where do you think he got bit at, Richard? Okay. By a radioactive spider. Science. Boom.
SPEAKER_00:I can't.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, no, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm gonna move. I'm gonna mute myself here.
SPEAKER_00:Symbiotic, meaning that both parties have to get an equal an equal something from the other. That's that's how that works.
SPEAKER_01:So yep. Absolutely, yeah. And and because like Tyler said, there it there is days where you're just gonna kind of fall short or just not have it that day, or just be kind of you know struggling. But man, you just gotta be able to to pick up with each other's slacks and and and be self-aware enough to know if you're doing that to somebody. If it's like I've let you down in the same way multiple times, I need to try to change that.
SPEAKER_00:Right. You know, like y'all keep talking. I've got to go be in the n you know, I gotta go be in the nativity.
SPEAKER_01:We talk about, you know, we talk Jesus. We talk about you know, we talk about like um I forgot what I was gonna say now. Richards, come back. We love you. All right, you know, we we talk about I don't know, I lost it. I don't know what I was gonna say. You see what happens? The show falls apart when one of uh the three are gone.
SPEAKER_02:I think we're doing okay. We can do it without we don't need Richard.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, symbiotic. Yeah, and you need okay, so Venom. Uh no, um, no, we we need to be self-aware enough to to see that and to know that and to be able to say, you know what, I need to fix that. You know, we we really get on it a lot talking about like time, you know, because you and Richard are very like punctual on time, very time-oriented, and I I I tr I respect people's time, but I'm not like as as kind of detailed as y'all. But being around y'all has made me want to do that because it's like, you know what, I need to get get a little more organized because I kind of we're bad influences. You I'd say good influences, but I mean, you know, hey, tomato peer pressure. Um show up early, Mike. Yeah. You're only, what is it? You're only on time if you're early. It's like that makes no sense at all.
SPEAKER_02:You're early if you're on early.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But it really does make you go, man, I need to. This is something that is important to y'all. I need to fix me doing that because I don't want to continue to be that person, like, oh my gosh, okay, he's right on time again and not showing up early and not being, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't that annoying?
SPEAKER_01:I know this guy right on time again.
SPEAKER_02:15 minutes early. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:I can go home.
SPEAKER_01:That's what you get a sandwich. Richard one day, like, texts me, like we had like a coffee meeting or something, and he texts me. Like, I'm on the way there. He's like, Oh, you're late. And then I took a snapshot of his text on my screen, on my phone, and when I pulled in, I went and took it to him and I said, No, I'm not. Here's the screenshot. You sent it to me five minutes before what time we said we're gonna meet, and I'm here on time. Yeah, you need to be early.
SPEAKER_02:I'll uh give you an example, kind of the the opposite example of what we're talking about, you know, someone like constantly doing it, uh, or like you know, doing something that's like I don't know. Anyways, so I talked to you about it before, this person on uh Bio Worship team, you know, pretty late consistently and all that. Um ever s ever since we had that conversation, she's like she's shown up late a few times, but it's either she's been within a few minutes, yeah, right, or if she's gonna be a little bit more, she's communicated that with me. Or she's been on time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I was like, thank you. Yes, yes, 100%. That's what's up right there, man.
unknown:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because like uh the this morning, actually, it was because we we tried to start our run throughs at 8. It was 8.03, and I was right as I started texting her, she walked right past me.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, yep. And it's like, and you know, now you've had a conversation with that person, then they they they fix the problem, you know, maybe not totally fix it, but it's a huge problem. So now you go, I know I could depend on this person even to have hard conversations, even to be able to have those awkward moments where you have to go, hey, let's try to fix this and clean this up. Now they do that. They take that and go, okay, cool, I'm gonna try to do better at it. And it's like, I can, I, I, I can work with that. Yeah, I need that. Yeah. So that it really shows that you're a you're a fully functioning grown adult person and not a child. And not somebody who, well, I just won't come. How about that? It's like, well, that that's not what I wanted. I did, but you you also we can't sit around for you know forever. And that, oh, that always drove me. Because I I give kind of a five, 10-minute window, you know, either way. So it's like, hey, if we're meeting at six o'clock and you're here at 6 07, I I consider that on time because anything could have stopped that, you know, could have caused that to happen, you know. I mean, you know, you could have got out and left your keys in the car. You had to walk back across the parking lot and grab your keys and walk back in. So you were still here on time, you just had to go and you know.
SPEAKER_02:So I kind of I do uh what's called a call time, and so it's like a 15-20 minute window. That's basically a hey, whatever however long it takes for you to get ready and set up, uh you need to show up within that time period to see it set up. So it could be, you know, if it takes you two minutes to set up, you can show up if say rehearsals at 6 30 and call time is 6 10 to 6 30. If you show up, you know, if it takes two minutes to get ready, show up at 6 28. Yeah. If it takes you 20 minutes to get ready, you probably need to be here at 6 10. But you're given that window of okay, here's plenty of time for you to get ready so that way we can all start on time together.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Together.
SPEAKER_02:I forgot the words. Give me a hug. Give me a high five. We're brothers. Yeah, and we're black and something. Gosh. What else you got on your mind, man? I don't know. Um man, I feel like ever since the baby's been born, my brain has been going in a hundred different directions, a million miles an hour. Just mush at this point. It's like I I feel like I almost feel like it's not like ADHD, but I just I feel like I just can't like completely focus on one thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because you got so much kind of running, yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:It's just so much. Like even at work, like I'm at work, like I'm uh uh I don't want to say I'm more peaceful at work because I don't have screaming babies, but at work it's it's like okay, I'm by myself in my office. Yeah, okay, it's nice and quiet, no one's screaming in my ear. But I still feel like like I can't focus on one particular thing because it's like because I've got a bunch of stuff at work that I gotta do, and then worrying about uh no stuff with the the twins. So it's like I'm I'll be doing one thing. I'll be so I'll I'll because I always try to start my morning with a Bible study, something, some kind of being in the Word, and I'll do that and within two minutes I'll be thinking about something else I need to be doing. And then moving, and then before I know I'm completely distracted. I've I'm one paragraph into this Bible study, I'm doing it, and I've already got a uh my set list out for this week. I'm like you got a bunch of stuff started, but nothing finished. That is, yeah. Well, I started this and this and this and this and I have multiple fires right now. Oh yeah, I have multiple fires and I forgot the number to 911.
SPEAKER_01:I get bad at that. Do you ever do you ever feel like you you have to be like at your office or out to to be able to focus? Like to be able to yeah, I'm I'm if I'm trying to do it at the cause I'll I'll sermon prep and do stuff at the house every now and then, but I like to be I have to be in my office at a coffee shop to really.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. To just to have some kind of mental clarity to focus. Yeah. Um even but even even still right now. Because I'm I you know we're both still in uh in the process of getting used to this new normal of life, because obviously it's very much something that we're not used to. Yeah. And that most people aren't used to because most people don't have twins. Right. Um and so we're we're still I think we're still uh both in survival mode. Yeah. And uh just playing tricks on our on our brains right now. Yeah man. I can focus.
SPEAKER_01:I I I can focus on it. You couldn't, and and that's the thing is you couldn't focus before. So now it's only it's be it's it's it's just it's much higher now. Uh yeah, yeah. I I feel you. I feel you on that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, especially especially being off work, because I was off work for a month, so I was kind of behind on some things. Yeah, now I feel like I'm playing ketchup, yeah, but then there's also more stuff on the plate and twins.
SPEAKER_01:Hopefully it's not mustard on your plate while you're playing ketchup. Walked right into that one. All right, I'm gonna stop hot dogging around. Oh man. So stupid. Oh shoot. I've never been more disappointed. Anything on your that's what's up for the week? Have you gotten any more?
SPEAKER_02:Um I don't think I I started um re-watching Saved by the Bell. The originals? Oh so good. And I didn't realize this. So it's on um because it's on Tubi. And it's got the first season. Well, the first season, because I I I never put this here because I'd seen episodes from the first season, but the first season was meant to be a completely different show. Oh, yeah, I didn't know at all. It was meant because there's a teacher named Miss Bliss. Yeah. The show was originally called Good Morning Miss Bliss. I I have heard that. Okay, okay. Yeah. Um, and you know, executives with CBS or whatever, you know, ratings weren't great. They wanted to keep the show, but they kind of revamped it. So season two, basically completely fresh start with Saved by the Bill. Yeah. They're in California, Bayside, um, and no more Miss Bliss, no more what was one girl's name, Nikki. I can't Mikey, I think was the other kid's name they were replaced with Kelly Powellski, Casey Slater, Jason Spano.
SPEAKER_01:Crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I thought I was like, I've heard something about that, but I don't think I've ever seen it either. Yeah. Well, I was because I was watching, I was like, man, they really put an emphasis on this one teacher.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Do you think because I I've had there's a few shows where I think that some of the most popular characters are some of the work like worst human beings ever. And of course they're they're not actual human beings, it's a character. But I think Zach Morris is a terrible human being.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah, he's a master manipulator. Absolute terrible human being. But he but it's it's kind of one of those things that's like is there's a there's a good and bad to it. Yeah, he's a master manipulator. Yeah, but he is so smart, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he was cool. We all wanted to be him. I mean he was super cool. So I like Slater too, you know, but it's just like, man, this dude's kind of just terrible. Yeah. And he's the he's the protagonist, like he's the one you're supposed to root for. It's like, yeah, yeah, he's pretty, pretty bad, pretty bad. But there's also there's always character development. Yeah, yeah. And I think Brooke Davis is the same. I think Brooke Davis is a terrible human being. Oh yeah. Up until she was a terrible high school student. Exactly, yeah. Until the time jump. Yeah, it was but yeah. I haven't saved by the bill.
SPEAKER_02:I haven't seen a because they they re they rebooted the show, I think, for just a season not long ago. It was not good a few years ago, where Zach Morris is a governor. Yeah, it's not good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I think like his son goes goes to school or something like that. Yeah, no. And they brought back a lot of the Slater was on there, and yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because I read Kell, I think Slater was the gym.
SPEAKER_01:I think so. I can't remember for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Or and then Kelly was maybe the school nurse or something. Something like that. I I remember I remember reading that Zach was the was the governor. I haven't watched it. I still want to watch it just for nostalgia.
SPEAKER_01:I knew it wasn't good, and then I knew um The Fresh Prince, that wasn't good. Oh, that was a complete basically a completely different show. That was weird. And then there was another one, but I think it it oh um Girl Meets World, I heard was pretty decent. I haven't got to see any of it.
SPEAKER_02:It's I don't know. There's there's a there's a big difference between Disney shows then and Disney shows now. Yeah, 100%. And I don't know if it's just because I'm an adult and I'm a lot older than when I was first watching Boy Meets World, but it seems very kiddish to me. Uh whereas Boy Meets World didn't really which again it could just been because of uh that I was a kid when I watched it.
SPEAKER_01:And no, I think I think you're absolutely right because you can go back and watch them now and go, no, these this was just good. You know, it because I think now they they purposely dumb it down to go, it's a kid show, see how goofy it is. And it's like a kid's show can also be serious about some serious topics.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, uh yeah. I think that's that's I think that's where they kind of miss the mark on some of these shows. Like there was well and because there's so many touchy topics today that people don't want to talk about. Yeah. Whereas like, you know, shows like that, you know, back then weren't necessarily, you know, they're on Disney, but they are also weren't afraid to hit on the topic of uh minors drinking alcohol and getting drunk. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And in a good way, and in a good way to show you the bad out of it, and not just and not kind of the corny way to say it's bad, like don't do drugs, kids. And it's like, no, they showed the seriousness of it, and like so you really did look at it as a teenager and go, yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_02:Why it's probably not a good thing, instead of like, oh my gosh, and I think that's what they do with with Girl Meets World, is is they just try to make it real corny. Yeah and which and I get it's a kid's show. Um at the same time, you know, kids and I think that's I feel like things are kind of kind of like you like you say, kind of dumbed down a lot these days, to I guess because everything's so sensitive now. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:And I think a lot of those, what what made a lot of those the Full House, the Save by the Bells, the Fresh Pensable Air so special, The Family Matters, was it was for both. Like you could you're a teenager and kid watching it, but also you're an adult going, This is really good. And now it's like just a huge separation. It's like, no, this is a kid show. Yeah, and you watch it as an adult, and it's like, okay, no, this is for kids, obviously.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because I I I'll still watch Boy Meets World every once in a while.
SPEAKER_01:100%.
SPEAKER_02:I don't want to sit and watch Girl Meets World. Right, right, yeah. I try, I tried watching it just, you know, because it's it's not the reboot, but it's like the almost the continuation. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's it's uh I almost said Dave Matthews.
SPEAKER_01:It's Corey Matthews and Papanga. Dave Matthews, the same thing. Um, and and I think they miss out a lot on on some some viewers because a lot of those are are people like us that are older now that we would watch it. I'd watch that with my kids, but I'm not gonna if if it's like, oh my gosh, okay. You can watch this, sis, if you want to, but I'm not gonna sit and watch this.
SPEAKER_02:That's that's um almost like with uh that 90s show. Yeah. Cause they terrible show. Yeah. I love that 70s show. Like I still watch it. It's it's it's one of my comfort shows. If I'm having things to watch, I'm gonna put that on or in practical jokers or yeah, whatever. But that 90s show, oh, so bad. The acting was so bad. Yeah, and I think one, I really do think they tried to make it corny because it was the 90s. Yeah, and uh, I feel like the 90s were kind of a corny time. Yeah, absolutely. Well, it was corny in all the right ways, yeah. But the show, and I don't know, and I don't know if it's me, and maybe someone who's older and actually lived through the 90s. I was born in 97, if someone that actually lived through the 90s and was coherent in the 90s, and not a lot bad it. And yeah, yeah, um, maybe there's some appreciation there. Uh I just uh yeah, I think the show just sucked and and they they really they counted on the nostalgia too hard. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that's what they it didn't last, and that's what they do because they have no good writing, so they they lean so heavy on the nostalgia. That's why there's so many shows now that are 80s, 90s inspired because they're like, well, we don't really have anything good to write. Let's just make it in the 80s and everybody will watch it and love it. Now, Cobra Kai, they did everything right with that. So you never never watched it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I want to, dude. I'm t I'm I'm telling you, it's it's not the karate kid. Yeah. Um it it very much hits on it, but it's I don't know how to put it. Obviously it's a it's a continuation, yeah. But it's not like it's oh they take they take you know stories from the karate kid, and then they just create these new stories. It's like they it's like the stories from the karate kid are continuously developing in Kobra Kai.
SPEAKER_01:And that I think that show, because that it it's up my alley. And I think that show came out and I just had too many going on, so I wasn't able to Well it came out in what 22, I think. Because it's uh it's yeah, so that would have been kind of peak.
SPEAKER_02:Or maybe or it might have been a little bit earlier. It might have been around COVID.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so yeah, so that was what five years ago.
SPEAKER_02:I think still Yeah, because there's I think there's they just wrapped up the series. I think it was five seasons. Yeah, so that would have been in the middle. Stranger Things was hot and heavy, Walking Dead was still going on. Yeah. It's it's it's really good. The story like the character development is really good. Yeah. Uh the characters, because it's you know, it's more than just uh Johnny Lawrence and Daniel LaRusso. You you get invested in the new characters. Yeah. Um they they did really well with the storylines and kind of how all uh everyone everyone's uh story is intertwined and intertangled with everything, and and they man, they use a great amount of nostalgia to where you're hooked into the show and they bring something back and you're like, Oh man, I remember that. Yeah, it's so good. And it it it hooks you even more, and you and then you're just even more invested in it. That's what's up, man.
SPEAKER_01:Well man, I sure love you.
SPEAKER_02:Do you?
SPEAKER_01:I do you love me?
SPEAKER_02:Do you love me?
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, yes.
SPEAKER_02:Playing your love games with me.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
