Almost Brothers Podcast
Whats up whats up whats up.. welcome to your new favorite podcast. Join your hosts Michael, Richard, and Tyler as we discuss God, church, life, and the journey through this crazy world. Get away from the stresses of life with this podcast. We will be hitting on various topics from sports, to life with Christ.
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Almost Brothers Podcast
Under The Microscope: Life As PKs
Ever wonder what it actually feels like to grow up as a pastor’s kid when everyone’s watching? We brought two PKs into the studio for an unfiltered, funny, and surprisingly tender look at pressure, stereotypes, and the kind of faith that only makes sense when you’ve seen it change someone you love. From teachers threatening to “message your dad” to the myth that “PKs are the worst,” they name the weight—then show how real transformation at home keeps hope alive when church culture disappoints.
We also get honest about the cost of ministry on families. Weddings, funerals, hospital visits, and Sunday logistics don’t pause when kids need time with dad. We talk about boundaries that actually work, why “Can this wait?” is a holy sentence, and the pastoral promise we cling to: the church should not move forward while our families move backward. There’s nuance here—calling is worth it, lives change, tears are real—and small rituals like movie night, shared lunches, and inviting kids into the day-to-day can help restore what the schedule steals.
Along the way we lighten the room with a “That’s What’s Up” round: fluffernutter discoveries, a dystopian audiobook dive, Marvel rewatches and MCU origins, hoops tryouts, game builds, and an animated film watch list. A spirited GOAT debate breaks out—efficiency, eras, and why context matters—proving that healthy ministry homes can argue sports, laugh hard, and still circle back to the heart.
If you’ve felt unseen expectations, wrestled with doubt, or wondered how to support your pastors without burning them out, this conversation will meet you where you are. Listen, share with a friend who needs it, and tell us: where should leaders draw the line to keep family first? Subscribe, rate the show, and drop a review with your biggest takeaway.
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SPEAKER_00:Podcast etiquette. You're you're you're awesome. I try. You're definitely above average.
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SPEAKER_00:You were second in in um the Church Choice Award. Yep. Church Choice Award. Yep. So you got you got seven and the winner got eight. Oh wow. Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06:I'm not going to lie, I did not know you were recording.
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SPEAKER_00:Sorry. Sorry. What do you think so funny? Am I going to have to mute him? He's in Tyler's seat. Mute him. He's in third chair, so I can just mute you. That's funny. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome back to a brand new episode of the Almost Brothers Podcast. On today's episode, we got two guests. So as always, I've got Richie Rich. What's up? How you doing, man?
SPEAKER_06:I'm fantastic.
SPEAKER_00:Is your stomach full? Yes. I know mine too, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:We're gonna I'm gonna talk about it, and that's what's up. Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. That's what I'm talking about. And also we have some special guests. Tyler's still not here. However, they put it out for the universe so we could say it on here. That's right. They have had the twins.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:New babies. So congratulations to Tyler and Liv. We are so excited for you.
SPEAKER_06:Ezra and Esther have arrived.
SPEAKER_00:Man. So I think they got a couple more days at the hospital and then they'll be heading home. So y'all will hear his voice on here here soon enough. But in his chair, we've got Ezekiel Lee Simmons. What's up? My son, how are you doing, buddy? Good. Good, good. And we also have Richard's son.
SPEAKER_06:Starting for oh, sorry.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead. You can introduce him.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, that is my son, Tristan Randall. What's up?
SPEAKER_03:That's so much enthusiasm. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Every time.
SPEAKER_00:Every time I'm around Tristan, it reminds me of how much we are like. Me and you, or you and him. Me and him. Me and him. Yeah. Sorry. We get a lot, we we get each other, man. Like when you get beat. You can't catch your breath. Oh man. So today's episode, we're going to be talking about what it's like being preachers' kids, pastors' kids, PKs, as they call them. And how we wanted to get y'all's perspective because I know as as preachers' kids, y'all get uh sometimes sometimes it's it's unfair. A lot of times it's unfair, but y'all kind of have a um a I was about to say a microphone.
SPEAKER_06:A microscope.
SPEAKER_00:Microscope is the word. Thank you, Richard. A microscope on your lives because your dads are are pastors, you know. So we want to get y'all's perspective on on what y'all thought about that and how how your life is shaped kind of by who your dads are, and and if that's something that kind of casts a shadow over you, if that's hard to to kind of overcome, because again, you get judged unfairly a lot of times, I believe. You always hear the old, you know, the saying, like PKs are just the worst. It's like, well, are they though? Or is it just there's a bigger microscope on them? Right. Yeah. Right. So uh how do y'all ever feel pressure from that?
SPEAKER_04:Sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes, and like in what ways? By who?
SPEAKER_04:Uh I don't know, kind of just like some random people in church. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What do they say? Like you shouldn't be acting like that. You're the people.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, like if I get in trouble at school, like my teacher, my strict teacher, not gonna say the name, but yeah, it should be like I could I can message your dad, he'll be so disappointed in you.
SPEAKER_00:It's like I'm not mad, but I'm disappointed.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the silent car ride home, like the how's that feel?
SPEAKER_00:It's not good.
SPEAKER_04:It's like I I just fall asleep when you get the silent car ride home. Like, you just eye in me like and y'all only live like four miles from ride, it's not very far.
SPEAKER_00:You can't take a six minutes of silence, like it feels like six hours. Yeah, you you think that's unfair, you know, many times. I mean, it's like sometimes you get in trouble, and you're just being a kid.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_06:It's like having Tyler there again. Man, you ain't lying. He fills in just perfect, just one liner is just going clear your throat and put in some do-its.
SPEAKER_00:Do it. We gotta put that as a button since since he's not here. Tristan, what about you, man? You ever felt kind of that pressure?
SPEAKER_03:I honestly would say probably not. My experience is a little different because I was older when my dad became a pastor, I guess. But and even well, I guess I was like 12 before we all even really got into church. So I wouldn't say I really necessarily feel like pressure over it, but yeah. Well definitely I think people like even just when you tell someone you're just speaking to uh a random person and you you say, Hey, yeah, my dad's a pastor, or whatever, like they kind of have that little look in their face, and already just you can tell their minds assuming things. Yeah. But that doesn't really bother me.
SPEAKER_06:So well you you kind of have a a more unique situation because I wasn't a Christian your whole life.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I was about to say. Yeah, I didn't I didn't even think about that aspect of it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, he's seen me at my worst and I quote unquote best, I guess, now with uh, you know, walking. Yeah. So how how has that changed for you, you know, seeing both sides of that?
SPEAKER_02:Um I'd say definitely a lot. And you want to sit in the third chair? Sound like Tyler.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, no, I'm just trying to collect my thoughts before collect away.
SPEAKER_00:Take my time when I well and while you're doing that, I and and my kids are the same way, and you you've got young ones too that I I never really I thought about it off it, obviously, but I never really put those two together. Like Zeke's seen all ministry. Right. And Aliyah's in in the same boat as him where we weren't we we took a huge break, you know, in the middle of her life where we weren't in ministry for for a couple years, so it's like she saw that that difference of ministry, ministry, ministry to not doing ministry. So yeah, I never thought about that kind of side of it. Because that's all he's known is is ministry, you know. And when I'm when I'm saying ministry, I don't mean just going to church, but I mean like deep in ministry, you know, because even when we weren't we weren't doing something in the ministry, we were still going to church, you know.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, is that I think I think I got it. Like kind of I would describe it as like I think as a child, the experience like that I had kind of obviously shaped the way that I look at like Christianity as a whole, even which I know that's more of like my personal experience, but just speaking from that, like seeing you as you know, a very I guess like worldly, we'll say, Yeah, yeah. But I was just gonna say like objectively immoral, right? Like probably more of uh as like when I was younger to just be in, I mean, a lot better in most ways, like when I got older. It was definitely like very it was a very compelling argument for like I guess I know this is a Christian podcast, but I will say the existence of Christ and just his power and stuff like that, because um that's obviously something personally I've struggled with in my life. Just I mean, I know that's probably bad to say, shamey, I guess, but no, that's all of us. I mean Yeah But like if I'm being real about it, just uh something that's always kind of I think maybe led me to always coming back and to exploring it and trying to go deeper with it, even though uh obviously the world wants to pull me out of that type of uh that line of thinking. It's kind of something that's definitely kept me grounded, like in the faith. Which I know that's probably not a good thing. Like I guess you should just be grounded in your faith through Jesus, but it definitely is like a uh a very worldly, like a a uh what's the world word? Um like a physical thing that you can see with your own eyes, like in this world, uh a tangible thing that you can use to kind of keep yourself you know centered. And say for like example with you and whatnot, I'm sure Zeke probably has the same experience of like, man, I see my dad out here, you know, ministering the same way with my dad every day, and like that unshakable faith is something that can kind of just draw us back in when we're doubting or whatever, which I guess that can relate to a lot of other things within the Christian.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's good. Especially like you said, seeing both sides of him and the change that has actually happened, not just the change that he proclaims that happened, but the change you see.
SPEAKER_03:Because there's like I was just talking to someone about this the other day, like just so many people in the world that claim to be Christian, and that's also once again another worldly thing that is something that skews my perception of Christianity and causes me to want to say that you know it isn't uh like those people aren't being very genuine and real within that. But then you have also people on the other side of the spectrum, like I would say y'all two are very good examples of it. Obviously, the world's gonna come at y'all at times and y'all are gonna fall and y'all are gonna fail, but it's just when it gets to a point where those failures seem so far uh like so far apart and it don't happen that much, and you can compare that to other people who also claim to be Christians. That I mean you can see them just doing whatever they want, whatever they want, really having no conviction over it. Because like I've talked to Dad about this. I have like there's people in the world that claim to be a Christian every day, they claim to, you know, be whatever and hype themselves up, and I feel as though I have much more conviction over things than they do, and I don't really, you know, portray myself in that light. Right. It's just more of like an internal struggle rather than putting it outwards. I guess maybe that's like a way their way of coping, I guess, with yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Or just their way of putting a mask on that they're broken, you know. It's like it's like, man, I'm gonna portray this out so that it looks good, it sounds good, but I'm really just broken, and they don't want to admit it and they don't want to show that part of themselves. Yeah, that's good, man. And you think that's hurting Christianity a lot more than people even realize?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I definitely do. Because like, I mean, obviously we have a lot of siblings, and I feel like dad's got a lot of kids, but I feel like just and this isn't like uh uh, you know, some type of like pride thing or nothing. It's not like a bat uh, you know, a battle or whatever of who's the most devout Christian or nothing, you know what I mean? Like, because I definitely don't see myself as being like some evangelical Christian or something like out here saving lives, but uh I definitely feel as though like I have like the most like just yearning to learn about Jesus and stuff like that and curiosity about it and and things like that, I would say. And yeah, I don't know. I think it just that stems a lot from I don't know. Like I would say that that stems a lot from seeing the stuff that dad has done, like how his like life has changed and stuff, but there's definitely a lot of my like inner core that like wants to go against that because of the way that I I perceive Christianity and stuff like that. Even though I know that that's like people, you know what I mean? And you probably shouldn't look at people because they're not Jesus. It's like where else you I mean, other than well, another word.
SPEAKER_06:Unfortunately, we're just gonna look at it. A lot of Christians aren't great examples of Christ. Right. I mean, that's just a fact, and it's it's it's demoralizing for anybody seeking Jesus to go into a church and not find Jesus. Yeah. It's so hard to to to want to have that relationship and nobody to disciple you through that relationship.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And and I know I wanted to ask y'all, and Zeke, I'll start with you. Like, have you ever kind of got soured at the thought of church or the thought of ministry because we work so much and we give so much effort and you see so much heartache that we have to deal with in ministry? And does it ever make you go, I don't know if I want to be a part of that?
SPEAKER_04:Well, a little bit because I see I see y'all like working and you have no time to like do anything else. And sometimes I'm like wondering in my mind, you know, why would I want to do this if I'm just like just wasting time not being not being able to do anything, anything else other than that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, because you've talked about you wanting to be, you know, you want to play basketball, you want to play professional basketball, but you also talked about preaching, you know. So and that's one thing I'm always scared of is a lot of people don't see that. They don't see the time, the effort, the energy, the hurt, the heartache that goes into it, but y'all do, you know, my kids do, my wife does. They see all the effort going into it. And like you said, they see where there's not a lot of time here because you're pouring in to everyone here at the church. And I never want that to be a deterrent from y'all wanting not only to maybe be in ministry one day, but also to just sour you on the church in general. You know, so I I've really worked on trying to do that, especially with y'all, is make make time, make y'all a priority, not just the people at the church. Have you seen a change in that?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, a little bit. Okay, good.
SPEAKER_00:Where I try to spend more time with y'all. Yeah, because it gets it gets to where and this is a church wide thing, this is a just a complete Christianity-wide thing, is where just so much expectations are from our leaders, our pastors, our our preachers, whatever. It's so much expectation to be there, to be on call, to not have any off time, to make sure you're here and you pour into me and spend time with me, but also everybody at the church, but also do this and this and this. And it's like they don't realize that we have lives too. We have families, we have kids, we have, I coach basketball, like we have a bunch of things going on, but it seems like you can never meet the expectations because they expect so much out of you. And it's and y'all get the short end of the stick, y'all get the leftovers at the end of the day, and not the best of us, you know. So I I never want that to push you away from that because even with all those heartaches, those struggles, all the things that come with ministry, there's so many good things about it, too. There really is. Yeah. You know, we had a new lady this morning, she came up and she was crying. She's like, I needed this so much. This was awesome. It was her first time here. That alone is worth it.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, but I never want to see the church move forward while my family moves backwards. You ever felt like that? Just kind of like, man, dad spends a lot of time and energy at the church, but doesn't have energy or time for me.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think that I've personally like felt like that, but I think that the kids now probably do sometimes, because it's only like the more and more he's become uh like like just dive deeper into the faith the more time he's spent away and whatnot. Uh but yeah. I don't think for me personally I've ever experienced that.
SPEAKER_06:And it's so it is so hard to give of yourself to because you're only one man. Yeah. So you give what you got to your church and you give what you got to leadership and you give what you got to your family, and leading that that ministry and your kids, you know, they have all this stuff going on, and there's never a time when you can just sit and ask, What about me? Yeah. And it it's it's a selfish thought. We think it's a selfish thought. That's what I was about to say, yeah. But I don't think so. It but it's it shouldn't be. Yeah, but it still is. You know, anytime I sit down and have any time for me, I think I should be doing something else. Or if somebody tells me, hey, you need to do this or that, or what about this or that, and I'm like, I just sat down.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Like it gets so exhausting.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And the more we grow, the harder it is. You know, it's one thing when you got 50 people to okay, now you got doctor visits and you got funerals and you got weddings for 50 people, then you got 150 people, then you got 180 people. Yeah. That is a whole different monster. Now you've got I did three three funerals in six days.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And I've got a a wedding coming up. Those things come with it, I get it. But people just do not on the outside looking in. These guys aren't on the outside looking in. They're on the inside. Right. They see these things, but people on the outside looking in have no clue.
SPEAKER_06:Well, and it's it's even like like on Sunday mornings when you're when you're running around to do stuff, and it's like, hey, Pastor Rich, can you do this? Hey, Pastor Rich, can you look at this? Can you look at that? Can you look? What does Mike think about this? What is like and then my kids come up and ask me a simple question. I'm like, I don't have time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And it's just like immediately like I'm like, that should be the only thing I have time for.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. Yep. And it's hard because you do, you you have a job, you have a ministry, you have a calling, and you have to step into that and you have to do the things necessary to do that.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But if people would just take a second and think about all that goes into it, they would be the ones going, hey, you know what, this can wait.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Because it's the same thing. Like Bobby will be out in the gym playing basketball. There's so many services. I just want to go out there and shoot around with them. That's all I want to do. Right. But I can't. Right. Because I've got 180 people today that that are pulling in 180 different directions. Right. You know, so I don't get to have those times where I just go out there with him and shoot around after service because I'm dealing with all this. And again, it goes with the job, it's part of it. But I think that there's a line that very often gets crossed by people to where now it's not just a part of the job. Now it's we are expecting too much out of one person. Right. Like it becomes a lot. And I never want my kids, I never want y'all to feel that way about church because church is something that helps save lives. It really does. Yes. It helps bring people to Jesus. It is a play, a meeting place for the saints to come together and grow together. That is what it is meant for.
SPEAKER_06:So let me ask y'all a question. Just to help us. How can how do y'all think we can prioritize our time better with y'all? Like to make y'all more important?
SPEAKER_03:Um I feel like I've thought about this before. Um like when I was just talking about like how it comes to the other kids, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:Um That's what I was about to say. This is such a cool two-sided coin because you've got one in college and then one still in school, so y'all have very good perspectives on both sides.
SPEAKER_03:You know, so I was gonna say, like, I feel like I if I remember correctly, when I did like kind of think about this, I didn't really feel as though I came to like a good solution. I just think that I came to like an unfortunate reality, I guess you would say, which is the fact that uh like for your family and which I guess his side his situation might be even a little different though. I'm not sure exactly how it is, but like when I was in school, even in high school, and you would be at the church a lot, um it was just evident that none of us kids really had the same level of passion and stuff that you did for you know church and we weren't affected in the same ways, which that is part of the unfortunate reality. But then the other part is that in that um we have like a lack of empathy for what you are doing, if that makes sense, because it's so much like something you're so passionate about. And yeah, I think that's kinda just sums it up. That's good. I think it's kind of hard for us, especially as kids, I mean, to understand it, like we're just I mean, you gotta think, like kids are selfish, and I mean we are that's the way we think. Yeah. So like if I was Luke and I was six or Blaze or Zane and I was that young, 12 years old, whatever. I'm just thinking of it as, you know, why isn't dad ever home on Wednesday nights? Why is dad not home on Sunday nights? Like, why is he not spending time with us? When he is home, why does he not come in our rooms and hang out with us? You know, that's kind of the selfish way you think about it. But you don't also think about the other side of like, man, he has been at the church. He got off work at five o'clock, went in at 5 a.m., got to church at six, stayed there till ten, got home. Like he's put in an 18-hour day. He wants to get his little six hours of sleep, he's got to go back to work, you know what I mean? Yeah, and like obviously it took me growing up. I mean, I've always felt as though I kind of had more of like a bit of a level or head on my shoulders than maybe more like kids my age, but even that was something that was hard for me to fully grasp, even until the last couple of years. I guess that you got out like that I got out of my own, yeah, and kind of realized the uh the hustle and bustle of life and how real it actually gets. Yeah, if that makes sense. And I don't even have kids yet, so yeah. I mean, I really totally can't even put it in perspective fully.
SPEAKER_00:It really is, man. It really because because it would it would be looked at completely different if say I was a professional athlete, right? And I was gone and I was doing and I was, you know, out traveling and doing all it would be looked at as normal. It'd be just, oh, it's part of daddy's job. He's an NBA player. This is what he does. And it would be looked at as normal. But somehow we look at ministry like, oh man, you're just wasting time or they're just doing this or doing that. And we don't look at it as it is something that you are called and passionate about. Right. So that is such a good perspective. When you see it like that, it's like, wait, this is different.
SPEAKER_03:It might be uh, once again, like which this is maybe just reaching a little bit, but um just another tactic for the devil to use because he understands that, like in your example of being an NBA player, that's something that the world idolizes, that's something that the world, you know, places uh a value on. But the devil obviously doesn't want the world to place value on things such as you know ministry and things like that. So I mean, maybe even back in uh the eighties or seventies when someone had a dad that was a you know pastor, they they like were uh they they they took they took a lot of pride in that, that the fact that their dad did that, you know what I mean? Yeah, and they didn't really grow like resentment from that. But nowadays we live in a world where we got, I mean, all of your kids, I'm sure, now that live in the house, because even when I was younger, we had a cell phone in our hands, we're watching a lot of media getting fed propaganda all the time of the world. Yeah, that's kind of conflicting your mind because it's causing you to think that you shouldn't be placing such high value on that. Like my dad shouldn't be placing such a high value on this. It's not like he's an NBA player. Right, that's good. Yeah. So it's like that kind of causes you to I don't know, yeah, just think of it in a sort of negative light.
SPEAKER_06:Well, we've talked about it before, Mike, that you know, like moving for ministry. Yeah, if you were moving for any other job.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, you looked at crazy like y'all are moving to go to a church. It's like if you worked for a Fortune 500 company and they say, Hey, we want you to be the be the vice president, but which you we need you to move here.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's all congratulations.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, and it was the same thing when I drove a truck, it was normal. Yeah. So I was away, which it was a terrible, terrible time, but yeah, but everybody understood that I had to make a living. Yeah. And it was it was but now in ministry, what you're just not prioritizing family.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And it's like it's the same time, right? It's just used in ministry and not at a air quote job.
SPEAKER_06:Right. And I and I we try to do as much as possible on Sunday and Wednesday, yeah, so that we have the other time. The other time to spend at home. Yeah. But there are things that come up meetings and and special events and things, and and you just want a little understanding and a little a little cooperation, and it's you don't always get that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, and it's you know, I've I've talked about this. Saturday is one of my days off, uh days off during the week. I've had five in a year that we've been here without something coming. There's a funeral that comes up, there's a way, and a a pastor doesn't get to just go, I'm off today.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody shows up at your door for prayer, somebody needs you to do a wedding, a funeral. You you kind of do it.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You don't get to go, I'm off today. You don't get to go, I'm not gonna answer my phone today because it's my day off. You don't get that, right? You know, so you have to to be able to go, okay, this week I wasn't able to take my days off. Let's try to move things around and do this here. That's why we try to do movie night at the house or game. We'll play Uno and you cheat.
SPEAKER_04:Um cheat. You cheat. No, mom cheats.
SPEAKER_00:That's true, too. What'd she do? She was looking at Sissy's hand. Yeah, that's crazy. And she's like, oh, I'm trying to help her.
SPEAKER_04:I'm like, And then she won the next one.
SPEAKER_00:And then the next round she wins. I'm like, yeah, you were trying to help her. I'm sure.
SPEAKER_04:The score was like, you had like one or two.
SPEAKER_00:I had two wins. So we did first to five.
SPEAKER_04:Mom had five. I had four, Jaley had four. Yeah. So you were way at the end. Oh, yeah, it wasn't even close.
SPEAKER_03:And I got my so you know he was low-key mad with the call.
SPEAKER_00:And I got my second my second win right before she got her fifth. So I almost lost five to one. But we try to do that in our houses prioritized like Thursday nights. I try my best to not do anything on Thursday nights. I get done here, I go home, we we do movies, we do popcorn, we do games, whatever, to try to make sure we get some level of normalcy in our in our family life because we don't know. We could plan on something Saturday, but then something comes up and we have to cancel.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You know, so we we have to take those as we get them, and and we try to do a good job at that. Or like I I do I do a lot of if I'm up at the church doing stuff, I'll invite him and sissy to come with me.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:To try to just at least have them there. A lot of times I'll be in the office doing something, and they'll just come down here and and and play in the gym. Yeah, that's fine. I just want them near me at least in ministry.
SPEAKER_06:And mine are a little younger, yeah, Luke and Blaze, they'd tear this church to smithereen. We'd come down here like half the church is gone. What happened? Tornado, Luke and Blaze. But but yeah, I get and it and the kids are always wanting to come with me. Yeah. But like on Wednesdays, I'm here all day. Yeah. I mean, it's it's they get bored and then they start wanting to get into stuff and they want me to hang out with them, and I'm I'm I'm doing stuff, that's why I'm here.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. But that's why I have to tell Sissy so many times, like on Sunday, I'll come back to church at like two and we're we're going till 10. Right. And she'll be like, oh, well, do you want me to go? You can, but we're gonna be there for a while. Like if you want to come, you can. But I think those those little things like that, or I we're lucky enough to where Jamie works from home, so I can go have lunch with her pretty much every day. Like, I'll go, we'll grab lunch, I'll take it to the house, we'll eat, and then I'll come back to the church. So little things like that I think go a long way in in trying to take advantage of that. Yeah, and and to just prioritize your kids and your family over that, you know. And I never want I heard a pastor say it this way, and it was rough when you hear it, but I get I get what he's saying. He he told his congregation from the platform, I will let this church burn down before I let it hurt my family.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it's like it's hard to hear, but then it's like you understand where he's coming, like, because people that that's what the that's what a lot of people want you to do. I don't care about your family, you need to be here for me. Right. And it's like it's so heartbreaking, and there's a reason why pastors are quitting in droves.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, yeah. It's a tough gig, man. It really is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:And I don't even like I'm not a lead pastor. I'm an associate pastor, I guess, for lack of a better word of what I do, but I don't even have that added pressure of of delivering a message every Sunday or whatever. But it it's it's just people just don't get it. They they don't well, I don't know if they don't get it or they just don't care.
SPEAKER_00:But a little bit of both. I think it's a mix. Yeah, they don't care to because if they cared to to try to Get what they don't understand. They would ask more about it instead of well, you should do this or you should do that. They would ask, Wait, why don't we do this? Why don't you do this?
SPEAKER_06:Well, and it kills me. Why wasn't Mike at this? Why wasn't Richard at this? Yesterday, I went to Tristan's game. Yeah. I had three different people ask me why I didn't go to that conference yesterday. I was at my Yeah, it's like I was gone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And it and it does. Uh a lot of people, it comes from, hey, where were you at? Like we we we wanted to hang out with you, and they really are just curious. Yeah. But some people, it's like literally like, you should just be a superman with no sleep that spends no time with your family and just does everything going on. And it's just not possible. It is not possible. They don't do it, right? But they expect you to do it.
SPEAKER_06:Well, and and that they weren't saying it out of that. They were saying that you know there was a good time that I missed, but it's just you can't do anything, man.
SPEAKER_03:You still feel the pressure of it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, a hundred percent. Even without anybody saying anything, you feel like, oh man. And I wish I could have won that. Am I gonna am I had somebody thinking a certain way about me because I didn't go to that because I went home to prepare for something else?
SPEAKER_06:And it's like well, and I did want to go to both, but right, it's just not possible.
SPEAKER_00:And it it just it's crazy, man. It really is. The level of pressure that is put on our leaders is crazy. So I don't know. It's nuts. But we're gonna transition to That's what's up. That's what's up.
SPEAKER_06:I don't know what's up right.
SPEAKER_00:What was a out of breath. Tristan said he kind of like. I kind of like that.
SPEAKER_07:That was a vibe.
SPEAKER_00:So we do a we do a segment every every episode called That's What's Up. So something you're playing, listening to, watching, maybe a new movie, a new game, a new song, whatever it may be. So we'll start with us and then we'll go to y'all. So, Rich, you can start it off.
SPEAKER_06:Fluffernutter.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:So this is not something a game or anything. This is a new food that Mike introduced me to, and I was making fun of you all week about this. You really was. Well, because you say it like a Boston person.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, it's a fluffinutter.
SPEAKER_06:And that's not that's not anyway. So I got one tonight, and it, dude, it blew my mind. Like it was good. Like I had three of them. Well, they were half sandwiches, so I actually technically had a one and a half, but they were really good. So I just want to tell you that they were uh fluffinutter. But and that's what's up. I uh started a new sci-fi series audiobook. Um, it's the Cyber Dream series. Yeah. Um dystopian future novel. That's those are some of the best. I love them, dude. I love I love it because I can see the reality in it. Like I can see our world getting too much.
SPEAKER_00:See, getting to that point. That's why I like uh what's the movie, the big, the big one that has Harrison Ford.
SPEAKER_06:Running Man?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_06:Blade Runner.
SPEAKER_00:Blade Runner, yeah. Yeah, love it, man. Yeah, love that stuff. So what is it is it easy for you to imagine the stuff as they're as the as you're going through reading it? Because I know I know sci-fi is kind of a big see it, you know.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, well, it's an imagination thing. I was listening, you know, Helldivers' greatest book series of all time ever, and well, ever will be. I was listening to one of those books and I was driving and I was supposed to get off at an exit. And I really I crossed into Arkansas and I was like, oh crap. This is not where I'm supposed to be. I'm not supposed to be in Arkansas. So I had to turn around and I was late. But it's don't tell Christy.
SPEAKER_02:Do what? How far out of the way did you go? Like 10 miles.
SPEAKER_00:Ooh, yeah. Immersed. Yeah. Man, you ain't learning.
SPEAKER_06:So good though. But that's that's something I'm doing is the Cyber Dream series. Nice.
SPEAKER_00:That's the name of it, Cyber Dream.
SPEAKER_06:Okay. Yeah. Well, it's that's the series. It's the individual books have different titles, but uh very cool. The new shows have started back up. So Yeah, fall shows coming back on, yeah. I watched I watched a scary movie.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes, uh Scary Movies to Tell in the Dark. It's based off a children's book. And it's so anybody listen, it is a good family-friendly, scary movie. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, it was it was entertaining, and it was cool having all the kids there together, and that was awesome. I loved it. Screaming, yeah.
SPEAKER_06:It was it was great. But yeah. I kept scaring Luke. He was so good. Blaze was almost sitting under me by the time the movie was over. I don't like this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's a good, it's a good movie. And again, if you if you were 90s, early 2000s kid, you probably heard about this book. Yeah. Uh it's it's really good.
SPEAKER_06:That's what Adriana said. That's not scary. I was like, shut up.
SPEAKER_00:I think, yeah, because I think I think I watched it and uh I was subbing for her uh band class once. I think we watched it in there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Justin, what you got? I've been on like a Marvel kick lately. Oh, because I got Disney Plus. So watched original Captain America again. Ohriginal Iron Man. The best Avenger.
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_03:No, that was actually a W movie. And then I watched the original movie.
SPEAKER_00:It really is. It's a good movie.
SPEAKER_03:He's just not the best Avenger, but I watched the original uh Hulk and it was kind of meh. The yeah, the Andrew Norton. Yeah, like 2008.
SPEAKER_00:Or Edward Norton, Andrew Norton. Like 2008, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It was like just okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And it's weird, like the Hulk movies are like that, and then the Thor movies are kind of like that. They're hit and miss. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, the first Thor was great, and then they just went to crap after that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Who's your favorite Avenger?
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, you can be easy now. Your dad's right here.
SPEAKER_03:Probably Spider-Man. See, you see what I'm saying? Because I like the comedic release. Brilliant.
SPEAKER_00:That is that is the correct answer. I love Spider-Man. That is the correct answer. Right there. You are you are on it, man. That is absolutely the right answer. Let's give it up, man. That is the right answer.
SPEAKER_04:I think he picked it because of Zendaya.
SPEAKER_03:And did like, am I mistaken, or did like the entirety of the Marvel series kind of stem from Iron Man? Yes, correct. Okay. Because I was like peeping that and I was like, what the heck?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, so so it started, which I just educated Richard on this not too long ago. So Marvel, the cinematic universe, was on the verge of bankruptcy, and then Blade came out. So Blade was the first to go, oh, okay, this is gonna succeed. So Blade, they kind of hinged, if this fails, we're kind of gonna get away from movies, okay? So they did the Blade series. Blade was a huge success. But in the in the MCU, so the actual coherent timeline, yes, they they hinged it on Iron Man and said, okay, if this is gonna be a success, we're gonna start this Avengers initiative and keep it going. So if Iron Man would have failed, if Robert Downey Jr., if that would have felled apart, there would be no MCU. So literally, he is the MCU. It wouldn't succeed without that movie first succeeding. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:He's my second favorite, though.
SPEAKER_00:He's good, man. He's so good.
SPEAKER_06:I don't, I don't, if they had casted somebody besides Robert Downey Jr., I don't think it would have been. I don't either. I really don't. Because he was he was stark.
SPEAKER_00:He's so good, man. Yes. Because he took Iron Man in the Comics was like a third level kind of cool character. He was not a front and center, this is the guy. Right. So he took this character to where now he is the most known Marvel guy in the world. I mean, it's crazy. Crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Captain America, the original Captain America, that was it's really good. It's a very good movie.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And that story, like the whole Captain America story, is really good. Yeah. Like The Winter Soldier and all that. How that came in. Yeah. Yeah. It's good, man. Like it.
SPEAKER_03:Anything else? That's pretty much it. And I've been playing basketball, so that's cool too.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, man. Fun. It's so awesome. Yeah. Alright, Zeke, what about you, man?
SPEAKER_04:I really watch movies, so I'm not I'm not really.
SPEAKER_00:Anytime you watch movies, it's with us, huh?
SPEAKER_04:Well, exce except for one except for two movies. I watch two movies by myself.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, what you got?
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so the first one is amateur.
SPEAKER_00:You were telling me about this one, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's a basketball movie. I'm not gonna spoil it, but it's it's pretty fire.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, what's it on?
SPEAKER_04:Uh Netflix.
SPEAKER_00:Netflix, okay.
SPEAKER_04:And then the second one is grown-ups. Yeah, you love, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Grown-ups is a staple in our heavyweights. You quote that all the time, yeah. Yeah, that's a good one too. I introduced him to that one on Disney Plus, and yeah, that one's a good one.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, does Adam uh is Adam Sandler in the amateur movie? Or is that a different one? Okay.
SPEAKER_06:No, you're talking about hustle. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Oh yeah. And you got, well, you've been playing 2K26, right? Yeah. You start your My Career. Nice.
SPEAKER_04:My build's so good.
SPEAKER_00:What is it?
SPEAKER_04:It's a sh it's a 6'7 shooting guard.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:I think he weighs like I don't know how much he weighs, actually.
SPEAKER_00:I remember you talking like 215 or something. You told me about all this, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Something like that. That's what's big body and people.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, just you know. And I can shoot. Just doing it big. That's what I'm talking about. I like it, man.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah. Tristan can shoot too.
SPEAKER_00:Like it.
SPEAKER_06:Usually.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he can.
SPEAKER_03:Not the other day. Not the other day. I had to get to the basket. So I couldn't make nothing.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah. And tryouts. Tryouts.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, had tryouts on basketball. Did good, yeah. Come to the tree out. Yep. It's gonna be good. So we're waiting to put our schedule out until after football. So they got one or two more games.
SPEAKER_06:Cool.
SPEAKER_00:So we'll get that out and be rocking and rolling. We're gonna go see Tristan play. Pretty excited about that.
SPEAKER_06:His next game is November 4th.
SPEAKER_00:Nope. No, it's not.
SPEAKER_06:His first scheduled game is November 4th.
SPEAKER_00:Nope. Nope. It's October the You told me a while ago.
SPEAKER_06:How do you not know that, Richard? But it's not the schedule that the school put out.
SPEAKER_00:Oh.
SPEAKER_06:Then I think that's a good idea. What's it called when they do like preseason games? What are they called?
SPEAKER_00:Pre-season game?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think I think you're thinking of an exhibition match, but like an exhibition game, but maybe scrimmage? But that's like I don't know. But whatever this is is not like your regular season. Yeah, maybe a scrimmage or something. Yeah. But anyway. On November 4th? November first against.
SPEAKER_00:No, his other one is on the schedule, right? Yeah. It's a regular game.
SPEAKER_06:November 4th is his first home game. No. I've already had two home games. On the schedule, son. The schedule they gave out.
SPEAKER_03:They schedule they gave out at the uh Oh, you're reading the varsity schedule. I've already told you that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, and that's different. Yeah. Because we have different things. I'm telling you, he he'll make up stuff in his own head.
SPEAKER_03:Like I sent you muted.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I sent you the JV schedule. Yeah. I got it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That makes sense.
SPEAKER_06:You've seen it twice, actually. Yeah. Because I lost it the first time. I'm just gonna. So like I'm a terrible father.
SPEAKER_03:If you look at that one, it's just a complete different date.
SPEAKER_06:I'll check that out. So how they're telling people November 4th, that's completely wrong.
SPEAKER_03:But Braden's playing JV with me too, so that's pretty cool. There you go.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Dynamic duo. That's awesome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I was throwing him dimes. He was throwing me dimes. That's what's up.
SPEAKER_06:That's what I told him. Like assist. You were like feeding the ball to people that were scoring. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well that's what's up, man. Do they keep they keep full stats, right? Yeah. Okay. I figured they did.
SPEAKER_03:I think I've over the last two games, I think I've had like three blocks, both games. Yeah. Nice. There you go.
SPEAKER_06:Good rebounds.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, probably like six rebounds, probably like six or seven assists. I gotta tell you though. And I didn't I only score. I gotta tell you.
SPEAKER_06:Your teammate number two, six foot eight guy is just a waste of tall. Yeah. No. Just absolutely a waste of height. Hopefully he's not listening. Right, man. That's messed up.
SPEAKER_03:Whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Practice.
SPEAKER_03:He's not a very nice person, anyway.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, well, there you go.
SPEAKER_06:Well, I hope he's not listening because you have to see him every day. Oh, I'm not worried about him. Alright, cool. Yeah, he's not good.
SPEAKER_00:So for my, that's what's up.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, let's get to you, man.
SPEAKER_00:No, appreciate it.
SPEAKER_06:Whatever. You brought this up. Called me a bad dad to everybody. I did not. I didn't say that at all.
SPEAKER_00:So first thing is we're gearing up for Cape Con. Yeah. So Cape's Comic-Con. We we got invited to go and do a podcast there. So we're excited for that. That'll be on November the, I believe, the 7th. Yeah, that Friday night. So we're excited. So if any listeners come out, you can come and sit. And we'll be uh we'll be filming live, 7th at 7 o'clock p.m. Uh we'll be filming live there at uh at the convention, and we're excited for that. So gearing up for that. I think we're gonna do probably our favorite like five superheroes, something like that. We did it last time. No, we did the top villains.
SPEAKER_06:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Loki.
SPEAKER_00:Top villains. Loki is mine was Jenny from uh Forrest Gump.
SPEAKER_03:She Loki was a she's terrible, terrible human being. Yeah, if you really think about it. You know, it's crazy because I just rewatched that movie like a couple months ago, and I didn't realize like all the stuff. Well, like there was so much stuff I didn't even like realize because unless I was so young when I watched the movie, like it was actually such a deep movie. Yes. Oh, it's yes, and Jenny was a horrible person.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, all like, oh, you have money now. Hey, here's your baby. Like it's just it's so bad.
SPEAKER_03:He is which I mean, no, but let's be real though, she had a like horrible childhood as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I guess it's kind of like it wanted also for us to know that that's what shaped her into that.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, but it still was like make me a bird so I can fly, fly far away.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was bad.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, terrible, terrible.
SPEAKER_03:Kind of a lot more sad when you're gonna be able to do it.
SPEAKER_06:It's a great movie. It that's top that's top five movie easy.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, it's great. Yeah, it it's it's just got so much that goes on, so it's like it just never stops keeping you interested.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, it's I was I was thinking about this movie just the other day, just a random thought that you know, at the end when he's telling Jenny about all the all the stuff he did throughout his life, where he kind of recapped the movie, yeah. This dude lived a life.
SPEAKER_00:Right, you know, and that was cool. That's cool, because like one, it's impossible for this one guy to do all these things, but it's cool they they had all these major events, right? Even the ones that they didn't really like hit on a lot, like uh Watergate. Right, they just hint at it like, oh, well, he was there. He was the one that called for Watergate. Like it's crazy. So it's it's cool to see all those little historical events going on in the Black Panthers and you know, and Vietnam and all it's like, man, this is pretty neat.
SPEAKER_06:Or in Vietnam?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and that's all I have to say about that.
SPEAKER_06:What else? What else you got on your WhatsApp?
SPEAKER_00:Uh so I've been playing. I got back into Persona 5. It's been about a month and a half. You know, I've been off of it, so me and Dylan's been texting back and forth. We're both playing. Um, I almost picked up the Pokemon game, but I waited. There's a new one that just came out, so I waited on it.
SPEAKER_06:Gotta catch them all.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. So I waited on it, so I'm I'm kind of catching up with him and and seeing kind of where that game is looking. But um, we went and watched um what did me and Jamie go watch?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Y'all were gonna go. Oh my god. Oh, black phone two. Yep. Yep. Fantastic. I gave it my early score was like an 8-3. I'm moving it to a nine. Dang. I just sat and thought it is really, really good. Just ruminated on it. I think it is better than the first.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't really like the first one. You didn't? Isn't that like a scary movie? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Kind of.
SPEAKER_03:It's not like more of like an eerie, just like thriller type thing. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought it was dumb.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it's so good, man. What are you thinking of the right movie?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like it's literally a black phone in like this room or whatever. Yeah. And like they pick it up or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man, it's so good.
SPEAKER_03:I'm pretty sure I watched it with you. Maybe at your house. I just thought it was dumb. But everybody, y'all always like jacked up on freaking gas station drinks.
SPEAKER_00:What are some drinks we used to get?
SPEAKER_03:I don't remember what that we call them, but we put like baby bottle pops in them, sprite, just sugar upon shit. Yeah, just everything.
SPEAKER_00:I want to do that again so bad. Just have a movie night.
SPEAKER_06:You can't do it now. They're older, they'll have diabetes. They're not that much older. Goodness.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I get Tristan, Easton, Hunter, Jacob when he's down.
SPEAKER_06:Hunter's got a whole baby. He can't get away with it. He can't come over and watch a movie?
SPEAKER_00:Like, come on now, man. It ain't even that bad. It ain't even that crazy. Golly.
SPEAKER_04:Shout out to Hudson.
SPEAKER_00:What were they called? I can't remember what they were. They were really good.
SPEAKER_04:I remember Yammix. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And Jacob, I remember Jacob told me last time he was down what it was called.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like it was like Suicide.
SPEAKER_06:That's what I thought it was.
SPEAKER_00:Something like that.
SPEAKER_03:That's literally what I was just about to say. Suicide drink or something like that.
SPEAKER_00:It was really good.
SPEAKER_02:It would be a suicide drink for Jennifer.
SPEAKER_06:Oh man, it's a lot.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was a lot. There's a lot in it for sure. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, does she watch this?
SPEAKER_06:No, she listens to it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, listen. Yeah, that's not that.
SPEAKER_03:Speaking of listening and not watching earlier, I was gonna point out I don't think the people are gonna understand what you were air quoting earlier. Yeah. Because you air quoted a couple times, but they're probably just gonna be like, why'd he say that twice? Yeah. Yeah. Oops.
SPEAKER_00:Can I finish my That's What's Up? That'd be great. Yeah, that's what is go for it.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, Black Phone One, yeah. Horrible. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So we have Black Phone 2 and we we liked it a lot. Um apparently Mortal Kombat 2 got pushed back.
SPEAKER_06:Really?
SPEAKER_00:So it's not coming out until later. With a movie? You what? Yeah, a new movie. I gotta watch that. Yep, yep. So I've got to I always make a list. When I go to the theater, I I try to make a list of stuff that stuff that I I'm gonna watch, and I'll have like stuff written down for the kids, for me and the kids to watch.
SPEAKER_06:Did you ever watch The Naked Gun? Did you ever get that done?
SPEAKER_00:No, but it's on it's on HBO. Yeah, so um Zootopia 2 is coming out. Oh, that's gonna be good. New Spongebob movie. I will be there. I don't care if it's just me and I look like a freaking creep. I do not care. I am watching, I'm gonna have my SpongeBob t-shirt on. They bring me. I can't absolutely, well, I'm so down. So that comes out uh Five Nights at Freddy, a new Five Nights at Freddy comes out. I know you'll want to watch that, so we'll go watch that. Sure. Um, sure.
SPEAKER_03:Sure, yeah. Doesn't sound very enthusiastic. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Not want to watch it? Like he's like, I guess if you want me to. You buy me an Icy.
SPEAKER_03:That's the only reason I go.
SPEAKER_04:Free food is free food.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's right. That goat movie. Remember I showed you that? He plays basketball. Have you seen anything about it? It's an animated movie.
SPEAKER_04:Steph Curry was in it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It's produced by Steph Curry, yeah. So I've got a few. It's a good list, a good list of things. Tron I had to take off the list.
SPEAKER_06:Um due to reviews.
SPEAKER_00:It's so bad. Yeah. So bad. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Or the reviews were out and they were terrible.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Man, there's one. I I'm shocked that I really wanted to watch it. It stars Shannon Tatum.
SPEAKER_06:Really? That is impressive. That is very impressive.
SPEAKER_00:I know. I know. I'd I'd usually Magic Mic 3. No. No.
SPEAKER_03:Muted his mind.
SPEAKER_00:And he gets muted. That's what happens when you get muted. I heard that one. No, it's called Roof Man. It's like a I know what you're talking about. Yeah, it's like a comedy, but like romantic. It looks pretty good.
SPEAKER_06:Is that based on a true story?
SPEAKER_00:I don't think. No. I don't think, but it's got him and Kirsten Dunst in it. And I was like, man, this looks pretty good. It does look pretty good. So what's up?
SPEAKER_03:I got one last thing to add to my whatever. That's what's up. Yeah. I like it. So Nicola Jokic is my new goat of basketball. Yeah?
SPEAKER_00:In the NBA right now?
SPEAKER_03:No, like in all time. Mute him. No, don't mute him. Hold on. Let me explain my. No, because listen. Listen, listen though. Hear me out. Because if people can genuinely sit here and tell me, like straight to my face, that Kobe Bean Bryant was the greatest basketball player of all time, then I can say Nikola Jokic is. I don't know who that's a good idea. If there's an argument for Kobe Bryant, there's an argument for Nicola Jokic.
SPEAKER_00:And I don't think I I don't know a lot of people that that's entirely too many people that say that. That say Kobe is the greatest of all. That's that's a straight he's up there. I've only met a few. Yeah, he's up there, but no. He's not.
SPEAKER_06:Has this guy been playing in the NBA? Nicola.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, not very long.
SPEAKER_02:But it's not even a comparison. I mean, but he's gonna be a good one. I don't think he's got a championship.
SPEAKER_03:But for his time, he does have a championship. Does he have one? But also, yeah. And also, uh, the last five seasons in the NBA, uh, four of them have been the most efficient basketball seasons of all time.
SPEAKER_06:Most efficient. That's always what I look for in a basketball game. Me too.
SPEAKER_03:That's exactly how I am. So that's why I love it.
SPEAKER_06:I was kidding. Yeah. I couldn't air quote because we're on.
SPEAKER_03:And he also stopped 57% from three last season.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and it's also it's also a lot. Is it easier to shoot a shot contested or uncontested?
SPEAKER_03:It's better to not have to shoot it contested because you're that much smarter than everybody else.
SPEAKER_00:Is it uh you the answer the question that is given? Is it easier? Is it easier to shoot a shot when someone is guarding you close or not?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, when someone's guarding you close.
SPEAKER_00:It's easier to make a shot when someone's guarding you close. Oh no, no, no. When yeah, when you're open, yeah, my bad. I was uh defense now, defense when Jordan played.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Who which one was tighter? Which one was harder? Relative I mean, just no argument, which defense was better.
SPEAKER_03:No, current NBA.
SPEAKER_00:No, absolutely not. That's just when NBA players, when NBA when people who've done Bro, Dennis Rodman wouldn't make an NBA roster. When stop it. Stop it.
SPEAKER_03:Can't even make a left-handed layup. When I'm out of here.
SPEAKER_00:When it wouldn't make a G League. When NBA players, who who would probably know more about the game? NBA players, non-NBA players.
SPEAKER_03:NBA players.
SPEAKER_00:So when NBA players say the time then was much harder than the time now, not only players that only played back then, but players that play now. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I I think that they're talking in regards to like the physicality of like. Everything.
SPEAKER_00:They're just saying the defense was way better back then. Way better. It's not even close. Not even close.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe. So the NBA games I've gone to, it's like very, very physical.
SPEAKER_06:Can y'all finish this off-air?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we gotta just wrap this up. That's like saying No.
SPEAKER_04:That's like saying Anthony Edwards is good and he's been playing for like only a couple seasons. That's like journey. That's journey logic.
SPEAKER_03:You know, just Anthony Edwards is a very great basketball player.
SPEAKER_00:He is, but people are like, oh, he's the he's he's already up there with so-and-so. No, he's not. Stop it.
SPEAKER_04:Journey says like he's the next Jordan. Stop it. No, I don't think that.
SPEAKER_03:But I do think that there's a difference in just skill in general. Like the NBA is so much more skilled nowadays.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I get that the game has changed a lot. It's nothing against Jordan.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and just train and trainers, and people can play longer, and you get better food, and you've got all these things.
SPEAKER_03:Like, that's the thing, though. It's like you really can't have like a goat conversation. No, it's just a different thing. Like, I think we're all I think LeBron's the goat. I think Michael Jordan's the goat. I think. I mean, obviously I'm a glazing, but Nikola Jokic is the goat.
SPEAKER_00:Well, but that's the thing. You can't. Yeah, we'll talk about it also.
SPEAKER_03:I think we can wrap this up.
SPEAKER_06:I think Mike Trevillion's goats are the goats. Literally. Literally the goats.
SPEAKER_00:He's got the goats. But yeah, any new music, man? I don't listen to a lot of music. I don't either.
unknown:I don't either.
SPEAKER_00:I'm listening to Sam Barber a lot.
SPEAKER_03:Who is it? Sam Barber. Is he a barber? He's from South Southeast Missouri. I don't think he's a barber. Sam Barber. He's like super. He makes like great country music. Soul music. It's fine.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, okay. Very nice.
SPEAKER_03:A few cuss words, but like very minimal though.
SPEAKER_00:So it's like well, I sure love all of y'all.
SPEAKER_03:I love y'all. Love you.
SPEAKER_02:Richard. Yeah, I love you too.
SPEAKER_00:I don't believe that.
