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The Courage to Confront: Why Tough Conversations Matter

Michael Simmons, Richard Randl, Tyler Wilkerson

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Avoiding difficult conversations is a universal struggle, but the consequences of sweeping problems under the rug can be devastating. Join us as we unpack why making tough decisions early saves relationships from breaking points down the road.

When small disagreements go unaddressed, they don't disappear—they grow roots. We explore how this pattern appears in marriages, friendships, and especially parent-child dynamics, where today's permitted behaviors become tomorrow's deeply ingrained problems. "People will treat you the way you allow them to treat them," becomes a sobering reminder of our responsibility to establish healthy boundaries.

The psychology behind our avoidance is fascinating. Many of us build up these conversations in our minds until they seem insurmountable, only to discover they're surprisingly anticlimactic when finally addressed. The fear becomes greater than the conversation itself, creating a cycle of unnecessary anxiety and delayed resolution.

We share personal experiences of establishing communication patterns that prioritize addressing issues promptly rather than letting them fester. This proactive approach has transformed relationships and prevented small disagreements from becoming relationship-ending conflicts. The band-aid analogy proves true—ripping it off quickly hurts less than slowly peeling it away.

Perhaps most importantly, we discuss how the ability to have tough conversations acts as a litmus test for relationship health. If you can't express when something bothers you, is that genuinely a relationship worth preserving? True connection requires honesty, even when uncomfortable.

Ready to transform how you handle difficult decisions? Listen, subscribe, and share this episode with someone who might need to hear it. Your relationships will thank you.

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, hit the record. Button, he said right Right.

Speaker 3:

We're not on the clock yet. Now we're on the clock, the record button yeah man, you know I was thinking tonight. That's a switch, I know right.

Speaker 2:

Wait, I'm so sick of y'all. You just stop pointing at me, tyler. You just kept going like yeah, I know right y'all come on now it was he.

Speaker 1:

Uh, that was quick.

Speaker 2:

I like that one, it was good what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up. Everybody, welcome back to a brand new episode of the Almost Brothers Podcast. Thank you for joining us yet again today With me. As always, we got Richie Rich.

Speaker 3:

Hey, what's up?

Speaker 2:

How you doing.

Speaker 3:

I'm doing great man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, ta-ta Do it, Boom he's such an idiot. So good to have y'all listening to us today. Hope this finds you doing well and if not, hopefully this helps you to be well. Do it Be well. On today's episode, we're going to be talking about making tough decisions. Ooh, dun, dun, dun what a conversation.

Speaker 1:

It's a tough decisions. Ooh, what a conversation.

Speaker 2:

It's a tough conversation, exactly, you know, he's just so good.

Speaker 1:

He's on it Making tough decisions, man.

Speaker 2:

Always. I feel like a lot of people shy away from this and they let a negative situation turn into a terrible situation by not having those hard conversations and those tough decisions.

Speaker 3:

And it happens all the time. I mean it's like you just avoid something because you don't want to face it and then it just builds and builds and builds and gets worse.

Speaker 2:

Sweep it under the rug, man.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

And I feel like, especially in marriage, that some of our toughest problems is not getting to the root of the problem and just sweeping it and not making a decision, not confronting the problem, but just sweeping it until it becomes something huge. A small thing becomes a huge thing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then it becomes a big problem. And now it's inevitable and you have to make that decision, and it's a lot harder of a decision than it would have been in the first place.

Speaker 1:

I'll brag on my marriage just for a minute. Mirage, mirage.

Speaker 3:

That's because you're scared of your wife.

Speaker 1:

Listen, not the point.

Speaker 1:

It's a good point, not what we're talking about no, we, uh, we are not afraid to have those tough conversations. You know, if it's something like we, something on you know, a tough decision we have to decide together, or a tough conversation like there's something going on with us or, you know, or fighting, or whatever it is, um, and that started really from the beginning of just us dating and really being proactive about that to a point where it's not it's not that the tough conversations aren't tough, but we're not afraid like, and we've gotten to a point where if something's going on, we we don't push it off. We've got it Like, if we're good now, we need to talk about it right now.

Speaker 3:

Well, I remember an episode that we had talked before about, that you and Liv like first date, you're like how many kids you want?

Speaker 1:

I mean you know, well, we were, because I mean we both.

Speaker 2:

Was that in the bio of y'all's online dating thing? Like what's how many kids you want?

Speaker 1:

no, sorry, listeners, they they met each other on. My hit a brother up. I don't even know. I really don't remember what mine said, but uh, we, I don't that. I remember when we had that conversation. It it was kind of a casual, kind of over the phone, not like a all right, we really need to figure this out, but kind of just talking about over the phone what we want out of the future and I remember it was probably I can't remember it was after we started.

Speaker 1:

It was probably a couple weeks after we started dating. We started having those conversations about really what we expect out of the future, because I mean we're. We're both in our 20s and it's. I mean we're not really trying to waste any time anymore. Yeah, you know getting old.

Speaker 2:

I gotta get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we, we both understood and saw dating as a precursor to getting engaged in and getting married. And you know what's the point of dating if you're not going to lead towards that journey of getting married.

Speaker 1:

So, you know, we kind of had the conversation of okay, before we get too deep into this, let's, let's make sure we're on the same page, yeah, and I think that that was a good setup for us really, because I was about to say it seems like that was y'all were really mature in that and not just dating just to date like y'all.

Speaker 2:

Y'all both knew that like, if we're gonna do this, like you may be a future partner that I want to yeah well, and that's.

Speaker 1:

I remember, that's something I said. I said, um, you talking about this stuff, I want to be sure we're on the same page. Because if we're not on the same page about most things and really the non-negotiable things, then it's okay to call it quits now. No one really gets their feelings hurt. But when you're years into a relationship, or even married at the point, and you can't agree on nothing and you want different goals out of life, it ain't going to be fun.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, it makes. It makes that hard discussion that much harder yeah.

Speaker 1:

And the and the. I think you know the when you start doing that kind of stuff, having those conversations and being diligent about being proactive in a healthy marriage and and you know that kind of goes into having to make tough decisions or whatever it's a lot easier when you're with someone that you're at that point how to put it comfortable with having those conversations with. They're going to be tough regardless, but I'd rather have those tough conversations with live as opposed to someone else, right?

Speaker 2:

because you're on the same page. Yeah, you know you, you kind of understand each other a little bit well.

Speaker 3:

I don't like women, which me and jennifer been together for 18 years, yeah, something like that. I don't know, I don't do math, but we've been together a really long time and you know, sitting here talking about this stuff, it wasn't that way when we first got together.

Speaker 3:

When you first get together, it's like you can talk about things a lot easier and then, at some point during your marriage, during your relationship I don't, I don't know what happens Like there's a shift and I really think it's my age, like I'm I'm just old and tired, but I just don't want to spend time fighting and then yeah but and it's, it's, but.

Speaker 2:

You have to, you have to get those things out yeah, because it becomes like these are life decisions we have to make.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and if we don't make it, it's not going anywhere. Right, that's the thing is. It's like these are life decisions we have to make and if we don't, it's not going anywhere. Right, that's the thing. It's like, as hard as those tough decisions, those tough conversations are up front, it's only going to get harder, it's only going to get worse. It's not going to just go away and fix itself away and fix itself. So you might as well do it at the most convenient, quickest time so you can get it over with, have this conversation, make a decision and move on. And that's where I think a lot of people get to, where a decision that has now broken whether it's a marriage, a relationship, a friendship it's because they didn't address it when it first became a problem. They let it go and it's rooted itself so deep into that relationship that now, when you finally have to have that conversation, it's a make it or break it moment. Right, you know, instead of oh, we can.

Speaker 2:

It becomes a bigger deal than it even needed to be.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know, if you nip it in the bud in the beginning, it's a much smaller issue. And then other things build off of that issue. Yep, you know, you decide I don't know where you want your kids to go to school. Do you want to homeschool, do you want to send them to public school? You figure that out in the beginning. Now that you know that part, now other stuff builds off of that.

Speaker 3:

Right, so you can decide okay, what? What extracurriculars do we think we want to? You know it's. It's just everything builds off of one decision or another and you look at it in in parenting kids when they're younger the things that you allow them to do when they're younger.

Speaker 2:

That's gonna grow as they get older. If you let them back, talk you when they're three years old, four years old, five years old, how do you think it's going to be when they're 16? Oh, dude.

Speaker 3:

It drives me crazy to see eight, nine, ten year old kids in the store just screaming at their parents yeah or the parents, because it's the same parents. You know, when they were two that they cussed them and they was like, oh, that's so cute. He said a cuss word?

Speaker 2:

yeah, no, it's not.

Speaker 1:

And then now they're older, and now they're cussing you out and it's like my, my hot take on that is the parents that try to get their kids out of trouble, like at school or something like that guess what? When they're 18, 19, 20, into adulthood, you're gonna be paying for their lawyer right, right, it's the same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's because they've got that mindset and you, instead of having that tough conversation with them and making that decision to say this is not okay, you let it go then and it grew and grew and grew and now you've got a 40-year-old that doesn't like authority, that blames everybody else. Why? Because they could do that when they were younger and their mama and daddy allowed it.

Speaker 1:

That's what I try to explain to this boy right here, is he just?

Speaker 3:

thinks out he's like I don't want a part of this, yeah the the things that I try to explain, the things you do.

Speaker 1:

Even as a kid, you know you have to follow rules, whatever it translate into adulthood, right, but the consequences are much bigger yeah the responsibilities are much bigger when you're an adult, and I really try to.

Speaker 1:

I try to get on his level with that. But also and you know, I because I think, I think when it comes to discipline, there needs to be a balance of negative and positive reinforcement. You need you need to teach that that kid like balance of negative and positive reinforcement. You need you need to teach that kid like this ain't gonna fly, that or that was not a good decision, yeah, big, bad, dumb. Okay. Here is why we need to do something different yeah, and it's what you tolerate.

Speaker 2:

You celebrate, yeah, like what you allow, what you because they're, they're because, especially kids and in relationships, especially dating relationships, you're testing the waters. You're seeing like, okay, what can I do, what can I not do? How do I talk to them? How do I not talk to them? Can I be more stern? Do I need to be more loving? How do I need to do this? And you're testing your lines and your limits. So, whatever you're allowing someone to do to you, you're saying it's okay for you to do that.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's what I tell my kids all the time. People will treat you the way you allow them to treat you if you allow.

Speaker 2:

You know my adult daughters if you allow a man to hit you and keep going back yeah you're going to get hit right, don't be surprised when that continues to happen and it and it, it all. And that's what it comes down to is I don't want to make a hard decision, I don't want to have a tough conversation, so I'm just going to allow the thing to happen because I don't want. People are almost more afraid of having a talk about the thing than the thing itself. They'll allow the thing, the spous, yep. They'll allow the thing. You know, the, the, the spousal abuse. They'll allow the, the bad attitude they're allow these things to because they're scared to talk about, they're scared to say this is not okay, but they don't like the outcome of not saying that and it's like well, yeah, it's going to continue to happen if you don't do something about it.

Speaker 1:

I very much have a rip the band-aid approach with that kind of stuff A little tough love. Obviously you need to wait for the right time to have a tough conversation, but when that right time comes, just get it over with. Yeah, just have, think about what you want to say, what needs to be discussed. Kind of keep that in your head and when the right time, just do it. Yeah, just do it, because the more you dwell on it, the bigger it becomes in your head. Yeah, and that's going to cause you to push it off even more, Right, even more, make you more anxious about it, and then whatever that thing is could also be affecting that other person too. So now they're like why are we not having this conversation?

Speaker 2:

That's building in them and it turns into just this big thing, this huge argument that could have turned into just a 10-minute conversation, and most of the time it's not as bad as you think. It's not right, it's not. It's like you get into it and you're like you're, you know you're, you're trying to pump yourself up and you're like, okay, I'm gonna try to say this, but I'm gonna try to say it this way, and like you're kind of preparing yourself and then you get into it and you get done.

Speaker 2:

It's like that wasn't as bad as I thought like I hyped myself up so much for this conversation Very anticlimactic. And it was very kind of just pretty straightforward, and things got resolved and you could still disagree and walk away feeling better than you did.

Speaker 3:

Well, especially in marriage, you do that You're like just waiting for the right time to talk to somebody about something that's bothering you, and I guess it'd be that way way with with a friend or a spouse or whatever. But you, just you, you think about what you're going to say and and and all this, and it's a lot of times they've they already know that it's a problem, you know. So the the conversation is more, more along the lines of I know, I gotta, I gotta, I got to work on that, I know, rather than the confrontation that you're expecting.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes it is, sometimes it's, you know, it's just going to start. Just all hell's about to break loose as soon as I start this conversation.

Speaker 2:

But you still have to have it because it's not going anywhere. You're just going to feel worse and worse, you're going to lose sleep over, you're going to be stressed out. Just get it over with. Yeah, have the conversation and it is. It's tough, man. It's especially with people that you love like man. I don't want to talk about this because I don't want it and it's not. If you love them and they love you, it's not going to ruin anything. They may be mad at you, may disagree, but it's not going to ruin. You know, if you love each other, you have to respect somebody that says hey, this bothered me, right, even if it's a misunderstanding, like, okay, cool, well, let's talk about it well?

Speaker 3:

you would hope so, right, and if not, then then they never loved you. You should question the love, right right.

Speaker 2:

It's like if I can't have a relationship with you and tell you when something bothers me, right then is that a relationship. Yeah, it's like man, come on now even outside of that.

Speaker 1:

You know, having to making tough decisions and having those tough conversations with kids I, I'd imagine, is because I haven't had too many tough conversations with kids, I'd imagine it's coming so much I know it's so much harder because, whatever the tough decision was as a responsible parent or guardian, whatever the decision was, I would hope you made it, weighing all the pros and cons, trying to figure out what is best for that child, regardless of how tough and difficult of a decision it was. When you bring that up to that kid they're not going to understand.

Speaker 3:

It really does change the dynamic when kids are involved. You know, if you're just together with four kids worst case scenario you've ruined two lives, yeah. Now you have kids, you've ruined an entire family, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that was the thing when we were doing all this, moving over the past year and a half, trying to get, trying to get the kids to understand, like we want your input, but you're not making this decision right, like we are going to make this decision for what's best for our family, even if it is not what's best for our family, that is up to us to make. Because it drives me crazy when parents are like, well, I'm going to talk to my kids and get their input and they're going to help make this decision. It's like they're kids. It's like, of course, you want the best for them, you want them to be okay with what you're doing, you want to explain it, but it's like we had to get to that point, to where we're like, look, this is what we're doing because we think this is what's best, yeah they want unicorns for their birthday, right, right, it's like, it's like.

Speaker 1:

This is what we're gonna do and it and it's like you said, just pull the band-aid like yeah, it's kind of like you know the the dynamic that me and live have, because she's uh, she's very much a traditional biblical type. My husband's the head of the house. She even puts it that way herself. We make how would she say it? We kind of come to a final decision together, but it's ultimately up to me to say yes or no.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and yeah, it's, it's y'all make the decisions together, but she allows you to lead. Yeah, and that, and that's the best way to do it. It's not just the man going okay, here's what we're going to do. It's a conversation, it's a, it's a but it's also a trust that that your wife believes in you to make the right decision for the family you know, but, yeah, it's always a.

Speaker 2:

That's how it is and ours is. You know, hey, let's make this together, but here's what I think we need to do, like, and here's why, you know, not just saying this is why I think we need to do let's, but just like. Here's the why.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, man, so I had those tough conversations.

Speaker 1:

Ultimately, I've had a lot more life experiences than live. You know, I lived on my own.

Speaker 2:

for like six years Was she living with her parents, when y'all got together, okay, so she lived on her own.

Speaker 1:

I think a total of like maybe six months Before y'all got together. Okay, yeah, so she, she lived on her own.

Speaker 3:

I think a total of like maybe six months before y'all got married yeah, yeah and yeah, she was a freshman in high school when they got together. Yeah, funny.

Speaker 2:

No, oh gosh, no listen before someone called it calls it junior high before someone calls the cops.

Speaker 3:

She was 20.

Speaker 2:

No, she was. I had to go pick her up from homecoming.

Speaker 1:

No, she is before we even met, but she was. I was a senior in college when she was a senior in high school, which is kind of weird, yeah Well. But again, four years as an adult isn't yeah Well, it's when you, when you put it in that, in that sense because like you know the, the ranges. The age ranges stay the same, yeah, but the feeling is different. Oh, absolutely like a 16 year old dating a 12 year old.

Speaker 2:

That's weird, right a 20 year old dating a 16 year old? That's weird. Yeah, that's crossing the boundary. A 24 year old?

Speaker 1:

that's weird, that's yeah, that's crossing the boundary a 24 year old dating a 20 year old right it's as normal as can be yeah, yeah, well, I was when I was 20 or 21.

Speaker 3:

I had an 18 year old girlfriend. I had to pick her up from school and was 18. But well, yeah, she's a senior in high school.

Speaker 2:

Well, I've dated jamie for ever, ever. So there's that we were same grade, uh, but yeah, well, moving on, we're gonna go into the segment we call that's what's up, what's up, what's up what's up? Exactly, can't play, just what's something what's something that y'all been listening to watching?

Speaker 3:

maybe a movie, maybe a tv show, maybe a new song album, maybe a new video game we, uh, we went to the movies oh my gosh, this weekend me and mike and we saw the worst movie ever put into a theater it was bad which one was it?

Speaker 1:

28 years later it was really that bad it was bad. You were psyched to see it. I was too terrible it was.

Speaker 3:

It was the work. Like I want my money back. That bad it was so bad dude.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was so bad I didn't even want to talk about it on. That's what's up.

Speaker 1:

It's, it's that bad it was just in the episode I had to, I had to warn people dude.

Speaker 3:

It was terrible man, but uh, let's see what else we got going on.

Speaker 1:

I haven't played xbox in forever both of you had to rate it out of 10. Where would you put?

Speaker 2:

it negative three I'm.

Speaker 1:

He's a little more extreme um so don't use negatives, because I can't I don't know how to use those with averages out of 10.

Speaker 2:

It would be in the low fours.

Speaker 1:

Low fours first see, I've half of the movie after what you're saying, that sounds generous.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, first half of the movie. After what you were saying, that sounds generous. Yeah well, the first half of the movie was really pretty good, like there was some good stuff going on a good, a good lead up, a good build, and then it completely fell apart after that I thought the whole story from beginning to end was colluded and ridiculous and confusing what's colluded means it just was confused.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay it was just convoluted whatever, it was okay stupid it was a stupid, colluding was like, like getting together and yeah let's get together and agree.

Speaker 3:

That's a bad.

Speaker 1:

Let's collude together and agree that it was colluding I like.

Speaker 3:

I like the first half yeah, good for you, I didn't yeah, I don't know how I averaged negative three and four. So well, and also and and I'll fine, I'll give it one, whatever richard's taste in movies can also sway quite a bit whatever I like, what I like, yeah, absolutely, that's fair yeah, there ain't nothing wrong with that not saying you're wrong. So uh night agent, season 3.

Speaker 2:

Is that what you showed me? Like the picture? Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3:

Comes out. What is today?

Speaker 2:

Today's the 20th Tomorrow.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there you go, okay, tomorrow. Okay, that was a really cool show and you're caught up, except for the new season.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, yeah, very cool, cute, I guess. I haven't even heard of that one.

Speaker 3:

It's really good. You would like it. It's a I don't know kind of a yeah, I don't know like a Jack Ryan kind of thing. That's what I thought when you showed me the picture.

Speaker 2:

That's exactly what I thought it was, so okay.

Speaker 3:

Okay, cool. So yeah, you might want to check it out. Yeah, what's?

Speaker 2:

it on. It is on netflix. Okay, I do have netflix, yes the flicks of nets what you got um.

Speaker 1:

There's a band that I got introduced to last year, I think that just put out a new album. They're called avery parkway I've heard of them, kind of a christian kind of punk, kind of rock, kind of, I guess, kind of new punkish yeah almost like a reliant k something like it, yeah, yeah yeah, it's a, it's pretty, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

The first the, the first song on there is a medley of I don't know what the, if the first one, the first part of the songs from a song, or they just wrote it themselves, but the other two parts are bridges from two other songs. One's from uh, the bridge from, what a beautiful name, yeah, and then nobody, uh, from elevation.

Speaker 3:

It's.

Speaker 1:

It's a it's really cool intro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's a. It's a. It's a decent album. Um, there's some songs I like more than the others, but it's a decent album Very cool.

Speaker 3:

Have you heard the Dust on the Bible song?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dusty Bibles. Yeah, it's so good. Who's that? Josiah Queen?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I heard that one, which I'm not a music outside of the vinyls that I have at the house. If I'm in the car and listen to podcasts, I'm not, so I'm very behind on like new, even new worship music.

Speaker 1:

I'm very behind on trying to think if there's any new worship songs that have come out. I don't really, I don't think, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, okay.

Speaker 3:

Got that figured out. Yep, mike listened to the first 30 minutes of the first Helldivers I did.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I did, I was very interested, very interested. Ew, hell divers I did. Yep, I did, I was very interested, very interested.

Speaker 3:

You know books yep audio books, so did that about 30 minutes of audio book.

Speaker 2:

Uh, the new donkey kong just came out, which I'm gonna try to go pick up tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 3:

I've got it pre-ordered, so it's got a 10 out of 10 king so tk.

Speaker 2:

So I'm gonna try to play that maybe. This weekend I've been playing persona 5.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, played that and the little breaks that we had this weekend I played a little bit of that yeah, I know, I was trying to go to sleep and all I could hear is this teeny speaker over here in the other bed.

Speaker 2:

What are you playing? So five man? Um, yeah that man, there's a new wrestling game out I want to play. Yeah that man, there's a new wrestling game out, I want to play the wrestling game. Yeah, a couple new movies. It was some good previews. A couple new movies I'm wanting to watch. I'm gonna try. Tomorrow's my day off. I'm gonna try to rest. Hey, it's about rest tonight. Uh, gonna try to rest and watch. Um, I know what you did last summer I think it's gonna it's gonna be yeah I think it's gonna be what I watched this week.

Speaker 2:

I heard superman's terrible. I've seen kind of a breakdown of it see I've heard. I've heard it's. I've heard from one person it's different, but pretty good well, and and the biggest criticisms that I've heard about it is that it's it's more of a build-up the universe than a Superman movie, and it's like then make it not a Superman movie.

Speaker 3:

So like what, like building up to the Justice League type thing, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

I gotcha and it's like okay, then just make it that they already did that.

Speaker 3:

Don't say well, this is a whole new, this is a whole new universe.

Speaker 2:

They're restarting restarting the DC multiverse yeah, so the old Flash, the old this is all reset, so you'll get a different superwoman. Your supergirl is supposed to have her own movie, so they're setting up for that. But it's like, if you're going to do that, then just I don't want to go into a Superman movie and not get Superman. I can get little bits and pieces of Superman and and then here's everybody else and that's what they say, like he gets beat up the whole time and it's like not a superman movie, it's a. Here is all these characters, oh, and they're superman.

Speaker 3:

yeah did you see who uh was the fan choice for uh playing batman? No alan rickson.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah yes, I did see that. Yeah, I've seen something about that. Yeah, no, no, no, it needs to just be he's pretty buff for batman well, and that's the thing it's like. I loved ben affleck as batman, but he was just too bulky. He was too bulky for for like my what I liked in batman and like the comic book batman I've. So I I really like. I love george clooney as bruce wayne, but my favorite batman altogether is christian robert pattinson oh my favorite.

Speaker 2:

I like christian bell's batman. I I couldn't stand his bruce wayne, so I liked. I liked george clooney's bruce wayne and I liked christian bell's batman, but as both which which he hasn't got to do much bruce wayne, so I liked.

Speaker 1:

I liked george clooney's bruce wayne and I liked christian bell's batman, but as both which which he hasn't got to do much bruce wayne, he was more batman than bruce wayne in the new, in the new batman movie robert pattinson they can do so hopefully he kind of his bruce wayne is pretty decent I can do a multiverse, a dc multiverse movie where bruce wayne actually is not batman, right, yeah, he can actually say, no, I'm not batman and and there is, there's, there's comics where he gives it up and robin takes over as batman.

Speaker 2:

You know as kind of you know the main protagonist in that. But and I'm I'm anxious to see it, I want to see where it goes, I want to see who they cast as batman, see how the superwoman movie goes and and the green lanterns and stuff like that. So we'll see.

Speaker 1:

I feel like ever since the whole the you know, the whole Avengers legacy thing that DC has just been trying to mimic, yeah, marvel, and they could they have better characters than Marvel.

Speaker 2:

Does Marvel done a good job with their character Like Iron man in the marvel cinematic universe is the man like? He is the center point. He is the, the main character that started all that in the comics. He's not. He's like a 10th tier hero in the comics. He's not even one of the bigger guys. So they did a good job at at building around all these characters. Dc is just like we have to rush it out as quick as humanly possible, right?

Speaker 1:

so it's like oh, here's a movie with everybody in it. Here you go love them all instead of building yeah, well, that was the difference, because the whole avengers thing, how that was a span of 18 years and they built.

Speaker 2:

They said, okay, here's your own movie, here's your own movie. And then you know the end, they would cross over a little bit, but they'd have their own, their own thing. No, not dc. They had to go. Okay, you remember superman. Okay, now here's our new batman. And they're gonna be instantly together in this movie and then here's everybody else, they're instantly gonna join.

Speaker 2:

So, like you had one aquaman movie and then the next year you had a minute in right and it's like, oh, here's the justice league aquaman only had one film. Here's a new batman. Here's the Justice League Aquaman only had one film. Here's a new Batman. Here's Wonder Woman that only had one film. Here's Cyborg that hasn't had his own film yet. So they rush it all together and it's like, oh cool, I guess. But then it's like I don't really care about these characters the way I should.

Speaker 3:

And Cyborg was a really cool character.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Just got thrown in. They well, they gave you 15 minutes of a little bit of a backstory for him and then you're yeah, he was. He was a very cool character. My least favorite new dc movie which I haven't watched a whole lot was batman versus superman or superman, because what?

Speaker 1:

from what I remember, because they've been a few years since I watched it, what I remember is it was actually superman and wonder woman versus. Was it lex luther? Yeah and then batman's just getting beat up every once in a while. Yeah, that's legit how it seemed it was. Oh, here's batman, punch him in the face and he'll go away for a few minutes.

Speaker 3:

Well, just batman versus superman is ridiculous, like batman, as cool as he is, would not be a match for Superman.

Speaker 2:

I could not disagree more.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, seriously, I could not disagree more.

Speaker 2:

And the reason I can't disagree more is because in the comics and in cartoons and in the literature he actually holds his own, because Batman uses his brain around Superman. Superman would beat out his brain.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely not, he would not.

Speaker 2:

He's worked his way around. I'm going to have to educate you on some of these comics.

Speaker 1:

The way I see it, he goes around the way I see it. So think of like, Because I watch, I've seen there's a gym influencer named Bradley Martin Huge guy like 280, just completely jacked and then he has his podcast. He's doing it with Nate Diaz, who's a world-renowned MMA fighter. If Nate Diaz was a regular guy like Bradley Martin would absolutely completely smash him.

Speaker 1:

Now not saying that, with Nate Diaz being a world-renowned mixed martial artist, that he would just completely pummel Bradley Martin. But at some point strength does. Which strength is what had what superman has over batman, in my opinion, like oh, he does, that's not. Yeah, get a hold of him you know, he I feel like he's done in that situation, not not completely. Well, I'm saying, if superman got a hold of batman and and there really was no way out, he's done well, yeah, but it's.

Speaker 2:

It's harder said than done getting getting a hold of him that's and that's fair.

Speaker 1:

But but once, once that time comes, if that, time comes, because that's the thing you've got.

Speaker 2:

You know, you've got some. Some people. They say speed kills. There's a reason why that's like saying, oh, this middle linebacker, they're a lot, they're a lot bigger, so, man, if they get a hold of that running back, it's going to be over. It's like, well, yeah, but they have to catch them first, like you literally have to catch them first I'm sorry I upset the batman fan club over here and I'm not even like a superman hater.

Speaker 3:

I think he's awesome I just don't tell your dad that I said anything oh, I'm gonna tell him.

Speaker 2:

I just think, I don't know, I just batman holds his own because because batman, he's the world's greatest detective, like that's literally what dc means detective, comic sherlock holmes is no. So it's like he he uses his brain gadget to beat that's inspector gadget. Oh, he's a detective gadget, hey what?

Speaker 1:

detective, you're right.

Speaker 2:

Kind of like a detective right detector whoops anyways, I used to watch that cartoon. Yeah, oh, yeah, I did, I think, uh I think henry cavill's the best superman? Oh, absolutely yeah, he is superman this new guy looks like him a lot.

Speaker 1:

He seems to do a good job, but we'll just have to see what I was gonna say he's kind of like a wish, henry cavill, yeah we'll give it a little bit of time, which I just love.

Speaker 2:

Henry cavill's the man just all around he's everything he does is great, seems like a great guy, nicest guy in the world. He's just all around, just seems fantastic.

Speaker 3:

I've seen some, I don't know. I'm hoping they're not just AI general anyway, henry Cavill and Highlander I've heard they're looking at doing that movie again.

Speaker 2:

he was the witcher, so I don't know if I don't know, it would be really good. Something I'm not looking for Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1:

Oh gosh, I'm not looking forward to that.

Speaker 3:

It looks very cartoony.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say it reminds me of the Jetsons. Yeah, that's what they were going with is an 80s, I think An 80s time, but they're more advanced than we are now. So, like the jetsons, that's kind of what it is, but I think it was 80, maybe like the 50s, I don't know what year it is, but it just everything I've, because I try to read into, like what, what is the breakdown of this movie, and it just sounds terrible like oh no yeah, this is a little good.

Speaker 1:

I heard, uh, chris evans is coming back as Captain America in the Avengers Doomsday.

Speaker 2:

Probably they're having to backpedal. That's why they're bringing back Robert Downey Jr.

Speaker 1:

I'm still really curious how that's going to play out with him as Iron man, because I looked into it, because it's like a whole multiverse thing and how, uh, victor von doom and tony stark were like college roommates and something with I don't exactly remember.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's that's the theory. Is that they're going to go kind of that route. Is that they were roommates and then or what, what is it I'm trying to think?

Speaker 1:

they're called. They were roommates and then, gosh, I'm trying to remember. Yeah, that's, I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to remember too, because there was a comic spread where they, in a multiverse, they were roommates and then he became, you know.

Speaker 2:

I think it was like he did Victor Von Duden did something and then Tony took credit for it, or something like that, but also you've got the scrolls that, and I'm sorry for our listeners if you don't follow all this, but we're kind of geeking out here the Skrulls who were shapeshifters, and the theory is that they were shapeshifting and they made it look like Tony Stark and I don't know. It's going to be crazy.

Speaker 3:

We'll see.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, pretty cool to see.

Speaker 2:

What else y'all got in your hearts?

Speaker 3:

Nothing.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oop Exactly.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Y'all are awesome, man.

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